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King James Version
Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;
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KJV (with Strong's)
Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre H6865, and Zidon H6721, and all the coasts H1552 of Palestine H6429? will ye render H7999 me a recompence H1576? and if ye recompense H1580 me, swiftly H7031 and speedily H4120 will I return H7725 your recompence H1576 upon your own head H7218;
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Complete Jewish Bible
"Moreover, what have you against me, Tzor, Tzidon, all parts of P'leshet? Are you paying me back for something I did? If you're paying me back for something I did, then easily, quickly, I'll pay you back right on your own head.
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Berean Standard Bible
Now what do you have against Me, O Tyre, Sidon, and all the regions of Philistia? Are you rendering against Me a recompense? If you retaliate against Me, I will swiftly and speedily return your recompense upon your heads.
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American Standard Version
Yea, and what are ye to me, O Tyre, and Sidon, and all the regions of Philistia? will ye render me a recompense? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompense upon your own head.
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World English Bible Messianic
“Yes, and what are you to me, Tyre, and Sidon, and all the regions of Philistia? Will you repay me? And if you repay me, I will swiftly and speedily return your repayment on your own head.
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Geneva Bible (1599)
Yea, and what haue you to do with me, O Tyrus and Zidon and all the costes of Palestina? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompence mee, swiftly and speedily will I render your recompence vpon your head:
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Young's Literal Translation
And also, what are ye to Me, O Tyre and Zidon, And all circuits of Philistia? Recompence are ye rendering unto Me? And if ye are giving recompence to Me, Swiftly, hastily, I turn back your recompence on your head.
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SUMMARY

Joel 3:4 delivers a potent declaration of divine judgment against the nations of Tyre, Zidon, and Philistia, who had historically oppressed and exploited God's people, Judah and Jerusalem. The verse asserts God's sovereign authority and righteous indignation, challenging these nations' actions and promising swift and certain retribution for their transgressions, emphasizing that their deeds will be returned upon their own heads.

CONTEXT

  • Literary Context: Joel 3:4 is situated within the broader prophetic discourse of Joel, particularly following the vivid descriptions of the "Day of the Lord" in Joel 2 and the call to national repentance. Chapters Joel 3 (or 4 in some translations) shift focus from the locust plague and internal repentance to God's universal judgment upon the nations. The preceding verses in Joel 3:1-3 speak of God gathering all nations into the "valley of Jehoshaphat" for judgment because they have scattered His people, divided His land, and cast lots for His heritage. Verse 4 then directly addresses specific nations—Tyre, Zidon, and Philistia—who were prominent in these injustices, setting the stage for the detailed charges and promised recompense that follow in Joel 3:5-8.
  • Historical & Cultural Context: Tyre and Zidon were powerful Phoenician city-states located on the Mediterranean coast, renowned for their maritime trade and economic prowess. Philistia (referred to as "the coasts of Palestine") was another coastal region, home to the Philistines, perennial adversaries of Israel. Historically, these nations often engaged in slave trade, selling Jewish captives to distant lands like Greece, and participated in the plunder of Jerusalem's temple treasures, as alluded to in Joel 3:5-6. Their actions represented a direct affront to God's covenant people and His holy city. The rhetorical question "what have ye to do with me?" reflects the common ancient Near Eastern legal challenge, indicating a dispute over rights or jurisdiction, with God asserting His ultimate claim over His people and land, despite the geopolitical realities of the time.
  • Key Themes: This verse powerfully contributes to several overarching themes in Joel and the broader prophetic literature. Firstly, it underscores Divine Sovereignty and Justice, asserting God's ultimate authority over all nations and His active involvement in human history, challenging any nation that presumes to act against His will or His people. Secondly, the theme of Retribution and Recompense is central, as God explicitly promises to "return your recompence upon your own head," highlighting the principle of lex talionis (law of retaliation) and the certainty that injustice will not go unpunished. This echoes the broader biblical truth that vengeance belongs to the Lord. Thirdly, the verse emphasizes the Protection of God's People, serving as a divine assurance that any harm inflicted upon Israel is considered a direct offense against God Himself, reminiscent of the declaration that whoever touches His people touches the apple of His eye. Finally, the phrase "swiftly and speedily" highlights the Immediacy and Certainty of Divine Judgment, signaling that God's justice will be executed without delay.

EXPOSITION AND ANALYSIS

Key Word Analysis

  • Recompence (Hebrew, gᵉmûwl', H1576): This noun denotes treatment, an act (of good or ill), or requital. It carries the sense of a deserved outcome or repayment. In Joel 3:4, it specifically refers to the punitive retribution God will exact, a just consequence for the hostile actions of Tyre, Zidon, and Philistia against His people. It is a repayment in kind, reflecting the very nature of their deeds.
  • Speedily (Hebrew, mᵉhêrâh', H4120): This feminine noun, used adverbially, means promptly, hastily, or swiftly. Its inclusion here, alongside "swiftly" (H7031, qal), forms a strong Hebrew idiom emphasizing the urgency, rapidity, and inevitability of God's promised judgment. It underscores that there will be no delay or escape from the divine reckoning.
  • Return (Hebrew, shûwb', H7725): This primitive root means to turn back, whether transitively or intransitively. In this context, it signifies God's act of causing the consequences of the nations' actions to revert or fall back upon them. It's a powerful verb that conveys the reversal of fortune and the direct application of their own evil deeds back to their source.

Verse Breakdown

  • "Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine?": This opening rhetorical question is a powerful expression of divine indignation and a legal challenge. God confronts these nations, questioning their right or jurisdiction to interfere with His people. It implies that their actions against Judah and Jerusalem are not merely political or economic but a direct affront to God Himself, who claims ultimate ownership and protection over His heritage. The mention of specific geographical entities underscores the precision of God's judgment.
  • "will ye render me a recompence?": This second rhetorical question is a defiant challenge, implying that these nations have wronged God's people and, by extension, God Himself. It dares them to imagine they can repay or escape the consequences of their actions. The question is loaded with irony, as it sets up the immediate answer that follows, demonstrating the futility of their defiance.
  • "and if ye recompense me, swiftly [and] speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;": This clause provides the unequivocal answer to the preceding challenges. It declares God's absolute commitment to justice. The double adverbial emphasis ("swiftly and speedily") highlights the certainty and immediacy of the divine response. "Return your recompence upon your own head" is a vivid idiom signifying that the very evil they inflicted will boomerang back upon them, a direct and personal retribution for their deeds.

Literary Devices

Joel 3:4 is rich in Rhetorical Questions, which serve to emphasize God's indignation and challenge the nations' audacity ("what have ye to do with me?" and "will ye render me a recompence?"). These questions are not seeking information but are powerful declarations of God's authority and judgment. The phrase "swiftly and speedily" employs Repetition (or Hendiadys, using two words to express a single idea more emphatically) to underscore the immediacy and certainty of divine retribution. This Intensification leaves no doubt about the rapid and inevitable nature of God's justice. Furthermore, the concluding phrase "return your recompence upon your own head" is a potent Idiom or Metonymy, where "head" stands for the entire person, vividly conveying the direct and personal nature of the judgment that will befall the nations for their actions. This imagery also implies a sense of Poetic Justice, where the punishment perfectly fits the crime.

THEOLOGICAL AND THEMATIC CONNECTIONS

Joel 3:4 profoundly articulates the biblical principle of divine retribution, underscoring that God is not a passive observer of human injustice, especially when His covenant people are oppressed. It reveals a God who is actively engaged in the affairs of nations, holding them accountable for their actions against His chosen ones. This verse serves as a powerful reminder that while God is merciful and long-suffering, His justice is absolute and inevitable. Any harm inflicted upon those whom God has called His own is considered a direct affront to His character and sovereignty, ensuring that a day of reckoning will come for all who defy His will. The swiftness and certainty of this judgment provide both a warning to oppressors and a comfort to the oppressed, affirming God's unwavering commitment to righteousness.

REFLECTION AND APPLICATION

Joel 3:4 offers profound insights into God's character and His interaction with humanity, carrying significant implications for both individuals and nations today. It calls us to recognize God's active sovereignty over all earthly affairs, reminding us that no act of injustice, especially against the vulnerable or those who bear God's name, goes unnoticed or unaddressed by the divine Judge. For those who face oppression or witness pervasive injustice, this verse serves as a beacon of hope and comfort, assuring them that God sees their suffering and will ultimately bring about a just resolution. It encourages patience and trust in God's perfect timing, knowing that while His justice may seem delayed, it is always certain and will be executed with precision. Conversely, for those in positions of power or influence, or indeed for any individual tempted to exploit or harm others, Joel 3:4 stands as a stern warning: God is just, and all actions have consequences. It compels us to examine our own hearts and actions, ensuring we align with God's righteousness and compassion, rather than contributing to the cycles of injustice that draw divine recompense.

Questions for Reflection

  • How does the swiftness and certainty of God's judgment in Joel 3:4 challenge our modern perceptions of justice, especially when injustice seems to prevail?
  • In what ways might we, as individuals or communities, be tempted to "recompense" others in our own strength, and how does this verse redirect us to God's ultimate authority in justice?
  • How can the promise of God's ultimate justice provide comfort and strength to those who are currently experiencing oppression or injustice?

FAQ

What does "what have ye to do with me" mean in this context?

Answer: This is a rhetorical question that functions as a strong expression of divine indignation and a legal challenge. It signifies God's assertion of His ultimate authority and jurisdiction over His people and land. It's akin to saying, "By what right do you interfere with My affairs?" or "You have no claim or business with Me or My people!" It highlights that the nations' actions against Judah and Jerusalem are not merely geopolitical but a direct affront to God Himself.

Why are Tyre, Zidon, and "the coasts of Palestine" specifically mentioned?

Answer: These regions represent the Phoenician city-states (Tyre and Zidon) and the Philistine territories ("coasts of Palestine"). Historically, these nations were frequent adversaries of Israel and were particularly implicated in the slave trade of Jewish people and the plundering of Jerusalem's treasures, as detailed in subsequent verses like Joel 3:6. Their mention underscores the specific nature of their transgressions against God's people, making them prime examples of those who would face divine recompense.

CHRIST-CENTERED FULFILLMENT

Joel 3:4, with its vivid portrayal of divine judgment and recompense, finds its ultimate fulfillment and deepest meaning in the person and work of Jesus Christ. While the immediate context speaks of God's judgment on specific nations for their historical injustices, the New Testament reveals Christ as the one through whom all judgment is executed. The "recompense" for sin, which humanity justly deserved, was fully borne by Christ on the cross, as He became the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. He received the full measure of divine wrath for those who believe, thereby fulfilling the principle of recompense in a redemptive way. Yet, Christ is also the righteous Judge before whom all nations will ultimately stand. The swift and speedy return of recompense foreshadows His glorious second coming when He will return, not as a suffering servant, but as the King of kings and Lord of lords, to judge the living and the dead. The nations that oppressed God's people in Joel's day find their ultimate parallel in all forces that oppose God's kingdom. Christ's victory on the cross and His future return guarantee that all injustice will be rectified, and every knee will bow, acknowledging His supreme authority, ensuring that the "recompense" of all unrighteousness will indeed be returned upon the heads of those who ultimately reject His reign, while His people find eternal peace and justice in His kingdom.

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Commentary on Joel 3 verses 1–8

I. II. Main points1. 2. Sub-points(1.) (2.) Details

We have often heard of the year of the redeemed, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion; now here we have a description of the transactions of that year, and a prophecy of what shall be done when it comes, whenever it comes, for it comes often, and at the end of time it will come once for all.

I. It shall be the year of the redeemed, for God will bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, Joe 3:1. Though the bondage of God's people may be grievous and very long, yet it shall not be everlasting. That in Egypt ended at length in their deliverance into the glorious liberty of the children of God. Let my son go, the he may serve me. That in Babylon shall likewise end well. And the Lord Jesus will provide for the effectual redemption of poor enslaved souls from under the dominion of sin and Satan, and will proclaim that acceptable year, the year of jubilee, the release of debts and servants, and the opening of the prison to those that were bound. There is a day, there is a time, fixed for the bringing again of the captivity of God's children, for the redeeming of them from the power of the grave; and it shall be the last day and the end of all time.

II. It shall be the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. Though God may suffer the enemies of his people to prevail against them very far and for a long time, yet he will call them to an account for it, and will lead captivity captive (Psa 68:18), will lead those captive that led his people captive, Rev 13:10. Observe,

1.Who those are that shall be reckoned with - all nations, Joe 3:2. This intimates, (1.) That all the nations had made themselves liable to the judgment of God for wrong done to his people. Persecution is the reigning crying sin of the world; that lying in wickedness itself is set against godliness. The enmity that is in the old serpent, the god of this world, against the seed of the woman, appears more or less in the children of this world. Marvel not if the world hate you. (2.) That, whatsoever nation injured God's nation, they should not go unpunished; for he that touches the Israel of God shall be made to know that he touches the apple of his eye. Jerusalem will be a burdensome stone to all people, Zac 12:3. But the neighboring nations shall be particularly reckoned with - Tyre, and Sidon, and all the coasts of Palestine, or the Philistines, who have been troublesome neighbours to the Israel of God, Joe 3:4. When the more remote and potent nations that laid Israel wastes are reckoned with the impotent malice of those that lay near them, and helped forward the affliction, (Zac 1:15), and made a hand of it (Eze 26:2), shall not be passed by. Note, Little persecutors shall be called to an account as well as great ones; and, though they could not do much mischief, shall be reckoned with according to the wickedness of their endeavors and the mischief they would have done.

2.The sitting of this court for judgment. They shall all be gathered (Joe 3:2), that those who have combined together against God's people, with one consent (Psa 83:5), may together receive their doom. They shall be brought down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, which lay near Jerusalem, and there God will plead with them, (1.) Because it is fit that criminals should be tried in the same country where they did the fact. (2.) For their greater confusion, when they shall see that Jerusalem which they have so long endeavored and hoped for the ruin of, in spite of all their rage, made a praise in the earth. (3.) For the greater comfort and honor of God's Jerusalem, which shall see God pleading their cause. (4.) Then shall be re-acted what God did for Jehoshaphat when he gave him victory over those that invaded him, and furnished him and his people with matter of joy and praise, in the valley of Berachah. See Ch2 20:26. (5.) It was in this valley of Jehoshaphat (as Dr. Lightfoot suggests) that Sennacherib's army, or part of it, lay, when it was destroyed by an angel. They came together to ruin Jerusalem, but God brought them together for their own ruin, as sheaves into the floor, Mic 4:12.

3.The plaintiff called, on whose behalf this prosecution is set on foot; it is for my people, and for my heritage Israel. It is their cause that God will now plead with jealousy. Note, God's people are his heritage, his peculiar, his portion, his treasure, above all people, Exo 19:5; Deu 32:9. They are his demesne, and therefore he has a good action against those that trespass upon them.

4.The charge exhibited against them, which is very particular. Many affronts they had put upon God by their idolatries, but that for which God has a quarrel with them is the affront they have put upon his people and upon the vessels of his sanctuary.

(1.)They had been very abusive to the people of Israel, had scattered them among the nations and forced them to seek for shelter where they could find a place, or carried them captive into their respective countries and there industriously dispersed them, for fear of their incorporating for their common safety. They parted their land, and took every one his share of it as their own; nay, they have cast lots for my people, and sold them. When they had taken them prisoners, [1.] They made a jest of them, made a scorn of them as of no value. They would not release them and yet thought them not worth the keeping; they made nothing of playing them away at dice. Or they made a dividend of the prisoners by lot, as the soldiers did of Christ's garments. [2.] They made a gain of them. When they had them they sold them, yet with so much contempt that they did not increase their wealth by their price, but sold them for their pleasure rather than their profit; they gave a boy taken in war for the hire of a harlot, and a girl for so many bottles of wine as would serve them for one sitting, a goodly price at which they valued them, and goodly preferment for a son and daughter of Israel to be a slave and a drudge in a tavern or a brothel. Observe, here, how that which is got by sin is commonly spent upon another. The spoil which these enemies of the Jews gathered by injustice and violence they scattered and threw away in drinking and whoring; such is frequently the character, and such the conversation, of the enemies and persecutors of the people of God. The Tyrians and Philistines, when they seized any of the children of Judah and Jerusalem, either took them prisoners in war or kidnapped them, they sold them to the Grecians (with whom the men of Tyre traded in the persons of men, Eze 27:13), that they might remove them far from their own border, Joe 3:6. It was a great reproach to Israel, God's first-born, his free-born, to be thus bought and sold among the heathen.

(2.)They had unjustly seized God's silver and gold (Joe 3:5), by which some understand the wealth of Israel. The silver and gold which God's people had he calls his, because they had received it from him and devoted it to him; and whosoever robbed them God took it as if they had robbed him and would make reprisals accordingly. Those who take away the estates of good men for well-doing will be found guilty of sacrilege; they take God's silver and gold. But it seems rather to be meant of the vessels and treasures of the temple, which God here calls his goodly pleasant things, precious and desirable to him and all that are his. These they carried into their temples as trophies of their victory over God's Israel, thinking that therein they triumphed over Israel's God, nay, and that their idols triumphed over him. Thus the ark was put in Dagon's temple. Thus they did unjustly. "What have you to do with me (Joe 3:4), with my people; what wrong have they done you? What provocation have they given you? You had nothing to do with them, and yet you do all this against them. Devices are devised against the quiet in the land, and those offended and harmed that are harmless and inoffensive: Will you render me a recompence?" Can they pretend that either God or his people have done them any injury, for which they may justify themselves by the law of retaliation in doing them these mischiefs? No; they have no colour for it. Note, It is no new thing for those who have been very civil and obliging to their neighbours to find them very unkind and unneighbourly and for those who do no injuries to suffer many.

5.The sentence passed upon them. In general (Joe 3:4), "If you recompense me, if you pretend a quarrel with me, if you provoke me thus to jealousy, if you touch the apple of my eye, I will swiftly and speedily return your recompence upon your own head." Those that contend with God will find themselves unable to make their part good with him. He will recompense them suddenly, when they little think of it, and have not time to prevent it; if he take them to task, he will soon effect their ruin. Particularly, it is threatened, (1.) That they should not gain their end in the mischief they designed against God's people. They thought to remove them so far from their border that they should never return to it again, Joe 3:6. But (says God) "I will raise them out of the place whither you have sold them, and they shall not, as you intended, be buried alive there." Men's selling the people of God will not deprive him of his property in them. (2.) That they shall be paid in their own coin, as Adonibezek was (Joe 3:8): "I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hands of the children of Judah; you shall lie as much at their mercy as they have been at yours," Isa 60:14. Thus the Jews had rule over those that hated them, Est 9:1. And then they shall justly be sold to the Sabeans, to a people far off. This (some think) had its accomplishment in the victories obtained by the Maccabees over the enemies of the Jews; others think it looks as far forward as the last day, when the upright shall have dominion (Psa 49:14) and the saints shall judge the world. It is certain that none ever hardened his heart against God, or his church, and prospered long; no, not Pharaoh himself, for the Lord has spoken it, for the comfort of all his suffering servants, that vengeance is his and he will repay.

Matthew Henry (1662–1714) — Commentary on the Whole Bible. This section covers verses 1–8. Public domain.
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Commentary on Joel
(Verse 4-6.) But what do you want with me, O Tyre and Sidon, and all the regions of Philistia? Will you retaliate against me? If you retaliate against me, I will quickly repay you for your actions upon your own heads. For you have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried off my precious treasures into your temples. You have sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, in order to remove them far from their own land. LXX: What have I to do with you, Tyre and Sidon, and all the Galilee of the Gentiles? Are you rendering retribution to me, or do you hold anger against me in your heart (for this is what μνησικακείτε means in Greek)? Quickly and swiftly I will repay your retribution upon your heads, because you have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried off my precious treasures into your temples. And you have sold the sons of Judah and the sons of Jerusalem to the Greeks, in order to remove them far from their borders. And the Jews consider these places, Tyre, Sidon, and the borders of Palestine, or Galilee, to be inhabited by foreigners: because during the Jewish captivity, when they were conquered by the Romans, they persecuted the people of God; in fact, they persecuted the very God who presided over the people, according to what is written: 'He who receives you, receives me' (Matt. 10:40). Therefore, on the contrary, whoever persecutes the people of God, persecutes the very God to whom the people belong. I will restore, he says, to you what you have done to my people: for you have taken my silver and gold, that is, the vessels of the temple, and whatever was most precious and beautiful in it, the golden candlestick and the golden table of proposition, and the two golden Cherubim, and the mercy-seat, and the golden bowls and censers, and you have consecrated them to your idols (2 Kings 25). However, the Chaldeans are said to have done these things more, who placed the vessels of the Lord's temple in the temple of Bel: from which afterwards Belshazzar drinks in the vessels, and immediately his kingdom is transferred to the Medes and Persians (Daniel 5). But because after the Great and Horrible Day of the Lord, these things are said to happen, which the apostles interpret in the resurrection of the Lord, and the Hebrews differ in the future time of judgment, it is more to be understood about the Romans: that Vespasian and Titus, after the Temple of Peace was built in Rome, consecrated the vessels of the Temple and all its offerings in its sanctuary: which Greek and Roman history narrates. At that time, the sons of Judah and Jerusalem (not Israel, and the ten tribes, which until today live in the cities and mountains of the Medes) were sold to the sons of the Greeks, so that they would exterminate them from their borders, and the whole Jewish world was filled with captivity. They interpret this as referring to the vengeance of the blood of Christ and the destruction of Jerusalem, which happened by the judgment of God, confirming that it happened against Tyre and Sidon. But according to the intended allegory, we interpret Tyre and Sidon and the Palestinians as those who oppress, afflict, and persecute God's people (for Tyre resonates with our language) and hunt him down (or rather, for them to be hunted down) unto death, which the name Sidon indicates, and they drink blood and fall in the mud, which signifies the Philistines and Galilee. The Lord will quickly and swiftly restore to them what they deserve, because they have persecuted him. And their silver and gold, namely the words of the Scriptures, and their meanings, that is, their ideas and theses, and everything that was beautiful in the Church, they have delivered into the bondage of their errors. Whoever deceives heretics and causes them to worship idols, sells the sons of Judah and the sons of Jerusalem to the Greeks, or to the pagans, and makes them become heathens among the Christians, in order to exterminate them from their borders, in which they were born in Christ, and not in Judea, and in the confession of the truth, but they wander in the error of the nations. All of these things, we can refer to the Day of Judgment, without a differing punishment: although they may seem to differ in time from what the superiors say. For in Hebrew it is written 'Galilaea', which Aquila translated as 'Θῖνας', and Symmachus as 'Terminos'. And 'Θῖνας', which means 'Tumulos Arenarum', let us refer to the shores of Palestine, not to Galilee of the Philistines, which is nothing at all.
Source: Quotations drawn from early Church Fathers and historical Christian theologians (AD 100–1500). Some quotes address the surrounding passage context rather than this verse alone.
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