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King James Version
In measure, when it shooteth forth, thou wilt debate with it: he stayeth his rough wind in the day of the east wind.
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KJV (with Strong's)
In measure H5432, when it shooteth forth H7971, thou wilt debate H7378 with it: he stayeth H1898 his rough H7186 wind H7307 in the day H3117 of the east wind H6921.
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Complete Jewish Bible
Your controversy with her is fully resolved by sending her [into exile]. He removes her with a rough gust of wind on a day when it's blowing from the east.
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Berean Standard Bible
By warfare and exile You contended with her and removed her with a fierce wind, as on the day the east wind blows.
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American Standard Version
In measure, when thou sendest them away, thou dost contend with them; he hath removed them with his rough blast in the day of the east wind.
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World English Bible Messianic
In measure, when you send them away, you contend with them. He has removed them with his rough blast in the day of the east wind.
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Geneva Bible (1599)
In measure in the branches thereof wilt thou contende with it, when he bloweth with his rough winde in the day of the East winde.
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Young's Literal Translation
In measure, in sending it forth, thou strivest with it, He hath taken away by His sharp wind, In the day of an east wind,
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SUMMARY

Isaiah 27:8 offers a profound theological insight into God's disciplined yet merciful dealings with His people, Israel. This verse underscores the precise and controlled nature of divine judgment, emphasizing that even amidst righteous indignation, God's sovereignty and compassion remain paramount. It reveals that the Lord's chastisement is not arbitrary destruction but a measured, purposeful act, designed to purify and restore, ensuring that the full force of His "rough wind" is restrained, even in the face of the most destructive "east wind" of calamity.

CONTEXT

  • Literary Context: Isaiah 27:8 is situated within a significant prophetic section (chapters 24-27), often termed the "Little Apocalypse" due to its focus on universal judgment and ultimate restoration. Specifically, chapter 27 functions as a "Song of the Vineyard," a counterpart to the earlier, more somber "Song of the Vineyard" in Isaiah 5. While Isaiah 5 lamented Israel's unfaithfulness and predicted severe judgment, Isaiah 27 shifts to a tone of future hope, restoration, and God's protective care for His vineyard, Israel. The verses immediately preceding Isaiah 27:8, particularly Isaiah 27:6-7, speak of Israel's future flourishing and raise the question of whether God has struck Israel as harshly as He struck its oppressors, answering with a resounding "No." This sets the crucial stage for verse 8, which explains the nature of God's discipline – it is always "in measure," never exceeding His redemptive purpose.
  • Historical & Cultural Context: The "east wind" (קָדִים, qâdîym) was a well-known and dreaded meteorological phenomenon in the ancient Near East, particularly in Palestine. Originating from the vast Arabian Desert, this wind was notoriously hot, dry, and often destructive, capable of withering crops, bringing sandstorms, and symbolizing divine judgment, invasion, or desolation. Its devastating effects are documented in various biblical passages, such as Jeremiah 18:17 and Jonah 4:8. The imagery of God "staying" or restraining this powerful, destructive force would have resonated deeply with an audience intimately familiar with its devastating impact. This highlights God's absolute control not only over natural phenomena but also, by extension, over the nations and historical events He orchestrates as instruments of His divine will. The broader context of Israel's historical experiences, including exile and eventual return, would have further shaped their understanding of divine discipline and the promise of restoration.
  • Key Themes: This verse powerfully contributes to several overarching themes prevalent throughout the book of Isaiah. Firstly, it reinforces the theme of God's Sovereignty over all creation and history, including the forces of nature and the destinies of nations. God's ability to "stay" the wind demonstrates His ultimate control. Secondly, it profoundly illustrates the theme of Divine Discipline and Mercy, revealing that God's judgments are neither arbitrary nor annihilating. Instead, they are precisely measured and tempered with compassion, designed for purification and refinement rather than utter destruction. This stands in stark contrast to the unmitigated judgments often meted out to Israel's oppressors, as implied in Isaiah 27:7. Thirdly, the verse speaks to the theme of Restoration and Hope, as the very concept of measured discipline implies a future beyond judgment, where a purified remnant will flourish, a promise vividly anticipated in Isaiah 27:6. Thus, Isaiah 27:8 masterfully balances the severity of God's justice with the tenderness of His covenantal love for His people.

EXPOSITION AND ANALYSIS

Key Word Analysis

  • Measure (Hebrew, çaʼçᵉʼâh', H5432): This word (סַאסְאָה, H5432) refers to a specific, limited quantity, akin to a measured amount of grain. It conveys the idea of moderation, precision, and proportionality. In the context of divine judgment, it signifies that God's discipline is never excessive or random but is perfectly calibrated to His redemptive purposes. It implies a controlled, intentional act rather than an unrestrained outpouring of wrath, emphasizing divine wisdom and restraint.
  • Debate (Hebrew, rîyb', H7378): The Hebrew term (רִיב, H7378) means "to wrangle," "to hold a controversy," or "to contend." It often implies a legal dispute or a strong argument, sometimes even a plea. Here, when God "debates" with His people, it suggests a process of confrontation, challenge, and perhaps even a persuasive argument from God's side, aimed at bringing about repentance and understanding, rather than immediate, silent destruction. It implies a relational dynamic where communication, even in discipline, is maintained.
  • Stayeth (Hebrew, hâgâh', H1898): This root (הָגָה, H1898) means "to remove," "to stay," or "to stay away." In this context, it denotes God's active restraint or holding back of something. It is not merely a passive cessation but an intentional act of limiting or preventing the full force of the "rough wind." This highlights God's compassionate intervention, preventing His people from being utterly consumed by the severity of the judgment, demonstrating His protective hand even in the midst of chastisement.

Verse Breakdown

  • "In measure, when it shooteth forth, thou wilt debate with it:" This opening clause describes the precise nature of God's interaction with His people, Israel, implicitly referred to as the "it" or the "vineyard" from the broader context. The phrase "in measure" (בְּסַאסְאָה) emphatically states that God's actions are precisely controlled and limited, never overwhelming. "When it shooteth forth" can refer to Israel's growth, prosperity, or even its continued rebellious tendencies. "Thou wilt debate with it" suggests that God engages in a process of confrontation, contention, or even a legal-like dispute. This "debate" implies a purposeful, communicative discipline, aimed at correction, instruction, and ultimately, restoration, rather than arbitrary or silent judgment.
  • "he stayeth his rough wind in the day of the east wind." This second clause further illustrates God's profound mercy and sovereign control. The "rough wind" (רוּחַ קָשֶׁה) represents the severity of God's discipline or judgment, the instrument of His chastisement. The "east wind" (קָדִים) symbolizes a time of extreme, devastating calamity, a period of intense trial or external threat. The powerful imagery conveyed is that even when the most destructive forces are at play, God actively "stayeth" or restrains the full impact of His own disciplinary "rough wind." This demonstrates His profound compassion and unwavering commitment to preserving a remnant, ensuring that His people are not utterly consumed by the trials they face, but instead refined through them.

Literary Devices

Isaiah 27:8 masterfully employs several potent literary devices to convey its profound message. The most pervasive is Metaphor, where Israel is implicitly understood as a "vineyard," a recurring image throughout Isaiah (e.g., Isaiah 27:2-3). This metaphor allows for the discussion of pruning, growth, and the measured discipline applied to ensure fruitfulness and purification. Personification is evident in the phrase "thou wilt debate with it," which attributes a human-like action of contentious dialogue to God, highlighting His active, relational engagement with His people even in judgment. The use of "rough wind" and "east wind" serves as powerful Imagery and Symbolism, representing destructive forces and divine judgment. The "east wind" specifically symbolizes a particularly harsh and devastating period of calamity, while the "rough wind" is the instrument of God's discipline. The striking contrast between the destructive potential of these winds and God's deliberate act of "staying" His own rough wind creates a subtle yet powerful Antithesis, emphasizing God's mercy, control, and redemptive purpose even amidst the most severe calamities.

THEOLOGICAL AND THEMATIC CONNECTIONS

Isaiah 27:8 offers a profound theological insight into the very nature of God's discipline. It reveals a God who is utterly sovereign over all forces, including those of judgment, and who exercises His power with intentionality, wisdom, and profound compassion. His discipline is never arbitrary or overwhelming, but precisely "in measure," perfectly tailored to the spiritual condition and redemptive needs of His people. This measured approach, coupled with the active restraint of His "rough wind" even amidst the "east wind" of severe trials, underscores His covenant faithfulness and unwavering commitment to their ultimate purification and restoration. It assures us that God's ultimate purpose in discipline is always redemptive, never annihilating, powerfully reflecting His justice tempered by boundless mercy and His desire for His people's flourishing.

REFLECTION AND APPLICATION

Isaiah 27:8 provides immense comfort and a vital, transformative perspective for believers navigating life's inevitable challenges. It serves as a powerful reminder that even when we experience difficulties, trials, or what feels like divine discipline, God's sovereign hand is always in control, and His actions are invariably purposeful. His discipline is never a sign of His abandonment or indifference, but rather an undeniable testament to His loving commitment to our spiritual growth, purification, and conformity to His image. We can find deep assurance in the truth that He will never allow us to be tested beyond what we can bear, and that His ultimate goal in every trial is always our refinement, not our destruction. This verse calls us to lean into God's absolute sovereignty, recognizing His profound compassion even in the midst of life's most challenging "east winds," understanding that His measure is always perfect, and His restraint is always merciful. It encourages us to submit with trust to His refining process, knowing with certainty that it leads to righteousness, peace, and a deeper walk with Him.

Questions for Reflection

  • How does understanding God's discipline as "in measure" profoundly change your perspective on personal trials or difficulties you are currently facing?
  • In what specific ways have you personally experienced God "debating" with you, leading to a deeper understanding, repentance, or a change in direction?
  • What "east winds" are you currently facing in your life, and how does the assurance that God "stayeth his rough wind" bring you comfort and hope amidst them?
  • How can recognizing God's ultimate sovereignty over all calamity and His compassionate restraint strengthen your faith and deepen your trust in Him during times of uncertainty?

FAQ

What is the significance of the "east wind" in this verse?

Answer: The "east wind" (Hebrew: qâdîym, H6921) was a well-known meteorological phenomenon in the ancient Near East, originating from the vast Arabian Desert. It was typically hot, dry, and often devastating, capable of withering crops, bringing sandstorms, and symbolizing a harsh, destructive force. In biblical prophecy, it frequently serves as a powerful metaphor for divine judgment, invasion, or desolation, as seen in passages like Jeremiah 18:17 or Jonah 4:8. In Isaiah 27:8, it represents a time of severe calamity or judgment. However, the crucial point is that God Himself actively restrains His own disciplinary "rough wind" even in the face of such devastating external forces, highlighting His ultimate control and profound mercy over all circumstances.

How does God "debate" with His people?

Answer: The Hebrew word for "debate" (rîyb, H7378) implies a legal dispute, a contention, or a strong argument. When God "debates" with His people, it suggests a process of confrontation, challenge, and even a plea or persuasive argument from God's side, rather than silent, arbitrary destruction. This "debate" is not a sign of His uncertainty but of His relational engagement and desire for His people's repentance and restoration. It can manifest in various forms: through the direct words of His prophets, through the natural consequences of their actions, through the internal conviction brought by the Holy Spirit, or through the very trials and disciplines He allows or orchestrates. It signifies a relational God who actively engages with His people, seeking to bring them to a place of understanding, repentance, and ultimately, spiritual flourishing, rather than simply punishing them without interaction.

CHRIST-CENTERED FULFILLMENT

Isaiah 27:8 finds its ultimate and most profound fulfillment in the person and redemptive work of Jesus Christ. The "measured" discipline and God's compassionate restraint of His "rough wind" point directly to the cross, where the full, unmeasured "rough wind" of God's righteous wrath against sin was poured out upon His own Son. Jesus, the true "vine" (John 15:1), bore the entirety of the "east wind" of divine judgment, enduring the ultimate separation from God so that all who believe in Him would never have to face that consuming fire. Through His perfect sacrifice, Christ effectively "stayed" the rough wind for us, absorbing the penalty that would have utterly destroyed humanity. Now, in Him, God's dealings with His redeemed people are always tempered by grace and boundless mercy, for there is "no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:1). The discipline we experience as believers is therefore not punitive but redemptive, a loving Father's training for righteousness (Hebrews 12:7-11), always "in measure" and always leading to our spiritual maturity and conformity to the glorious image of Christ (Romans 8:29).

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Commentary on Isaiah 27 verses 7–13

I. II. Main points1. 2. Sub-points

Here is the prophet again singing of mercy and judgment, not, as before, judgment to the enemies and mercy to the church, but judgment to the church and mercy mixed with that judgment.

I. Here is judgment threatened even to Jacob and Israel. They shall blossom and bud (Isa 27:6), but, 1. They shall be smitten and slain (Isa 27:7), some of them shall. If God find any thing amiss among them, he will lay them under the tokens of his displeasure for it. Judgment shall begin at the house of God, and those whom God has known of all the families of the earth he will punish in the first place. 2. Jerusalem, their defenced city, shall be desolate, Isa 27:10, Isa 27:11. "God having tried a variety of methods with them for their reformation, which, as to many, have proved ineffectual, he will for a time lay their country waste," which was accomplished when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Chaldeans; then that habitation was for a long time forsaken. If less judgments do not do the work, God will send greater; for when he judges he will overcome. Jerusalem had been a defenced city, not so much by art or nature as by grace and the divine protection; but, when God was provoked to withdraw, her defence departed from her, and then she was left like a wilderness. "And in the pleasant gardens of Jerusalem cattle shall feed, shall lie down there, and there shall be none to disturb them or drive them away; there they shall be levant and couchant, and they shall eat the tender branches of the fruit-trees," which perhaps further signifies that the people should become an easy prey to their enemies. "When the boughs thereof are withered as they grow upon the tree, being blasted by winds and frosts and not pruned, they shall be broken off for fuel, and the women and children shall come and set them on fire. There shall be a total destruction, for the very trees shall be destroyed." And this is a figure of the deplorable state of the vineyard (Isa 27:2) when it brought forth wild grapes (Isa 5:2); and our Saviour seems to refer to this when he says of the branches of the vine which abide not in him that they are cast forth and withered, and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (Joh 15:6), which was in a particular manner fulfilled in the unbelieving Jews. The similitude is explained in the following words, It is a people of no understanding, brutish and sottish, and destitute of the knowledge of God, and that have no relish or savour of divine things, like a withered branch that has no sap in it; and this is at the bottom of all those sins for which God left them desolate, their idolatry first and afterwards their infidelity. Wicked people, however in other things they may be wits and politicians, in their greatest concerns are of no understanding; and their ignorance, being wilful, shall not only not be their excuse, but it shall be the ground of their condemnation; for therefore he that made them, that gave them their being, will not have mercy on them, nor save them from the ruin they bring upon themselves; and he that formed them into a people, formed them for himself, to show forth his praise, seeing they do not answer the end of their formation, but hate to be reformed, to be new-formed, will reject them, and show them no favour; and then they are undone: for, if he that made us by his power do not make us happy in his favour, we had better never have been made. Sinners flatter themselves with hopes of impunity, at least that they shall not be dealt with so severely as their ministers tell them, because God is merciful and because he is their Maker. But here we see how weak and insufficient those pleas will be; for, if they be of no understanding, he that made them, though he made them, and hates nothing that he has made, and though he has mercy in store for those who so far understand their interests as to apply to him for it, yet on them he will have no mercy, and will show them no favour.

II. Here is a great deal of mercy mixed with this judgment; for there are good people mixed with those that are corrupt and degenerate, a remnant according to the election of grace, on whom God will have mercy and to whom he will show favour: and these promises seem to point at all the calamities of the church, for which God would graciously provide these allays.

1.Though they shall be smitten and slain, yet not to that degree, and in that manner, in which their enemies shall be smitten and slain, Isa 27:7. God has smitten Jacob, and he is slain. Many of those that understand among the people shall fall by the sword and by flame many days, Dan 11:33. But it shall not be as those are smitten and slain, (1.) Who smote him formerly, who were the rod of God's anger and the staff in his hand, which he made us of for the correction of his people, and to whose turn it shall come to be reckoned with even for that: the child is spared, but the rod is burnt. (2.) Who shall afterwards be slain by him, when he shall get the dominion, and repay them in their own coin, or slain for his sake in the pleading of his cause. God's people and God's enemies are here represented, [1.] As struggling with each other; so the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent have been, are, and will be. In this contest there are slain on both sides. God makes use of wicked men, not only to smite, but to slay his people; for they are his sword, Psa 17:13. But, when the cup of trembling comes to be put into their hand, it will be much worse with them than ever it was with God's people in their greatest straits. The seed of the woman has only his heel bruised, but the serpent has his head crushed and broken. Note, Though God's persecuted people may be great losers, and great sufferers, for a while, yet those that oppress them will prove to be greater losers and greater sufferers at last, here or hereafter; for God will render double to them, Rev 18:6. [2.] As sharing together in the calamities of this present time. They are both smitten, both slain, and both by the hand of God; for there is one event to the righteous and to the wicked. But is Jacob smitten as his enemies are? No, by no means; to him the property is altered, and it becomes quite another thing. Note, However it may seem to us, there is really a vast difference between the afflictions and deaths of good people and the afflictions and deaths of wicked people.

2.Though God will debate with them, yet it shall be in measure, and the affliction shall be mitigated, moderated, and proportioned to their strength, not to their deserts, Isa 27:8. He will deal out afflictions to them as the wise physician prescribes medicines to his patients, just such a quantity of each ingredient, or orders how much blood shall be taken when a vein is opened: thus God orders the troubles of his people, not suffering them to be tempted above what they are able, Co1 10:13. He measures out their afflictions by a little at a time, that they may not be pressed above measure; for he knows their frame, and corrects in judgment, and does not stir up all his wrath. When the affliction is shooting forth, when he is sending it out and giving it its commission, then he debates in measure, and not in extremity. He considers what we can bear when he begins to correct; and when he proceeds in his controversy, so that it is the day of his east-wind, which is not only blustering and noisy, but blasting and noxious, yet he stays his rough wind, checks it, and sets bounds to it, does not suffer it to blow so hard as was feared; when he is winnowing his corn, it is with a gentle gale, that shall only blow away the chaff, but not the good corn. God has the winds at his command, and every affliction under his check. Hitherto it shall go, but no further. Let us not despair when things are at the worst; be the winds ever so rough, ever so high, God can say unto them, Peace, be still.

3.Though God will afflict them, yet he will make their afflictions to work for the good of their souls, and correct them as the father does the child, to drive out the foolishness that is bound up in their hearts (Isa 27:9): By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged. This is the design of the affliction, to this it is adapted as a proper means, and, by the grace of God working with it, it shall have this blessed effect. It shall mortify the habits of sin; by this those defilements of the soul shall be purged away. It shall break them off from the practice of sin: This is all the fruit, this is it that God intends, this is all the harm it will do them, to take away their sin, than which they could not have a greater kindness done them, though it be at the expense of an affliction. Therefore, because the affliction is mitigated and moderated, and the rough wind stayed, therefore we may conclude that he designs their reformation, not their destruction; and, because he deals thus gently with us, we should therefore study to answer his ends in afflicting us. The particular sin which the affliction was intended to cure them of was the sin of idolatry, the sin which did most easily beset that people and to which they were strangely addicted. Ephraim is joined to idols. But by the captivity in Babylon they were not only weaned from this sin, but set against it. Ephraim shall say, What have I do to any more with idols? Jacob has his sin taken away, his beloved sin, when he makes all the stones of the altar, of his idolatrous altar, the stones of which were precious and sacred to him, as chalk-stones that are beaten asunder; he not only has them in contempt, and values them no more than chalk-stones, but he conceives an indignation at them, and, in a holy revenge, beats them asunder as easily as chalk-stones are broken to pieces. The groves and the images shall not stand before this penitent, but they shall be thrown down too, never to be set up again. This was according to the law for the demolishing and destroying of all the monuments of idolatry (Deu 7:5); and according to this promise, since the captivity in Babylon, no people in the world have such a rooted aversion to idols and idolatry as the people of the Jews. Note, The design of affliction is to separate between us and sin, especially that which has been our own iniquity; and then it appears that the affliction has done us good when we keep at a distance from the occasions of sin, and use all needful precaution that we may not only not relapse into it, but not so much as be tempted to it, Psa 119:67.

4.Though Jerusalem shall be desolate and forsaken for a time, yet there will come a day when its scattered friends shall resort to it again out of all the countries whither they were dispersed (Isa 27:12, Isa 27:13); though the body of the nation is abandoned as a people of no understanding, yet those that are indeed children of Israel shall be gathered together again, as the sheep of the flock when the shepherds that scattered them are reckoned with, Eze 34:10-19. Now observe concerning these scattered Israelites, (1.) Whence they shall be fetched: The Lord shall beat them off as fruit from the tree, or beat them out as corn out of the ear. He shall find them out, and separate them from those among whom they dwelt, and with whom they seemed to be incorporated, from the channel of the river Euphrates north-east, unto Nile, the stream of Egypt, which lay south-west - those that were driven into the land of Assyria, and were captives there in the land of their enemies, where they were ready to perish for want of necessaries, and ready to despair of deliverance - and those that were outcasts in the land of Egypt, whither many of those that were left behind, after the captivity in Babylon, went, contrary to God's express command (Jer 43:6, Jer 43:7), and there lived as outcasts: God has mercy in store for them all, and will make it to appear that, though they are cast out, they are not cast off. (2.) In what manner they shall be brought back: "You shall be gathered one by one, not in multitudes, not in troops forcing your way; but silently, and as it were by stealth, dropping in, first one, and then another." This intimates that the remnant that shall be saved consists but of few, and those saved with difficulty, and so as by fire, scarcely saved; they shall not come for company, but as God shall stir up every man's spirit. (3.) By what means they shall be gathered together: The great trumpet shall be blown, and then they shall come. Cyrus's proclamation of liberty to the captives is this great trumpet, which awakened the Jews that were asleep in their thraldom to bestir themselves; it was like the sounding of the jubilee-trumpet, which published the year of release. This is applicable both to the preaching of the gospel, by which sinners are gathered in to the grace of God, such as were outcasts and ready to perish (those that were afar off are made nigh; the gospel proclaims the acceptable year of the Lord), and also to the archangel's trumpet at the last day, by which saints shall be gathered to the glory of God, that lay as outcasts in their graves. (4.) For what end they shall be gathered together: To worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem. When the captives rallied again, and returned to their own land, the chief thing they had their eye upon, and the first thing they applied themselves to, was the worship of God. The holy temple was in ruins, but they had the holy mount, the place of the altar, Gen 13:4. Liberty to worship God is the most valuable and desirable liberty; and, after restraints and dispersions, a free access to his house should be more welcome to us than a free access to our own houses. Those that are gathered by the sounding of the gospel trumpet are brought in to worship God and added to the church; and the great trumpet of all will gather the saints together, to serve God day and night in his temple.

Matthew Henry (1662–1714) — Commentary on the Whole Bible. This section covers verses 7–13. Public domain.
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Commentary on Isaiah
(Verse 8) When it has measured out against the measure, you shall judge it. LXX: He will send them out, quarreling and reproaching. According to the Hebrew sense here: As Jerusalem has done, so she will receive, and according to the measure with which she has measured, it will be measured to her in return. And then she will receive a full measure, when the time of judgment comes and God has rejected her. According to the LXX, it depends on what was said earlier. For Israel will not be struck as she has struck, nor will she be killed as she has killed. He argued against the Apostles, and reproached his teachers, and commanded them not to speak in the name of Christ. Therefore the Lord will reject them and cast them out from his flock.

He meditated in his hard spirit during the heat of the day. LXX: Were you not the one who meditated on destroying them with a hard spirit, with a spirit of fury? According to the Hebrew, it is said, 'In the measure that the table is, Jerusalem will receive.' Therefore, God meditated in his hard and vehement spirit, whether speaking against her during the heat of the day, that is, in the time of persecution, when there is a more intense day of indignation and punishment. According to the Septuagint, it is said of Jerusalem, or of Israel: Were you not the one who in your most stubborn and cruel spirit, and in the fury of your blasphemies, desired to kill the Apostles of the Lord and the teachers?
Source: Quotations drawn from early Church Fathers and historical Christian theologians (AD 100–1500). Some quotes address the surrounding passage context rather than this verse alone.
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