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King James Version
He teareth himself in his anger: shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rock be removed out of his place?
Complete Jewish Bible
You can tear yourself to pieces in your anger, but the earth won't be abandoned just for your sake; not even a rock will be moved from its place.
Berean Standard Bible
You who tear yourself in anger— should the earth be forsaken on your account, or the rocks be moved from their place?
American Standard Version
Thou that tearest thyself in thine anger, Shall the earth be forsaken for thee? Or shall the rock be removed out of its place?
World English Bible Messianic
You who tear yourself in your anger, shall the earth be forsaken for you? Or shall the rock be removed out of its place?
Geneva Bible (1599)
Thou art as one that teareth his soule in his anger. Shall the earth bee forsaken for thy sake? or the rocke remoued out of his place?
Young's Literal Translation
(He is tearing himself in his anger.) For thy sake is earth forsaken? And removed is a rock from its place?
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Commentary on Job 18 verses 1–4
1 ¶ Then answered Bildad the Shuhite, and said,
2 How long will it be ere ye make an end of words? mark, and afterwards we will speak.
3 Wherefore are we counted as beasts, and reputed vile in your sight?
4 He teareth himself in his anger: shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rock be removed out of his place?
Bildad here shoots his arrows, even bitter words, against poor Job, little thinking that, though he was a wise and good man, in this instance he was serving Satan's design in adding to Job's affliction.
I. He charges him with idle endless talk, as Eliphaz had done (Job 15:2, Job 15:3): How long will it be ere you make an end of words? Job 18:2. Here he reflects, not only upon Job himself, but either upon all the managers of the conference (thinking perhaps that Eliphaz and Zophar did not speak so closely to the purpose as they might have done) or upon some that were present, who possibly took part with Job, and put in a word now and then in his favour, though it be not recorded. Bildad was weary of hearing others speak, and impatient till it came to his turn, which cannot be observed to any man's praise, for we ought to be swift to hear and slow to speak. It is common for contenders to monopolize the reputation of wisdom, and then to insist upon it as their privilege to be dictators. How unbecoming this conduct is in others every one can see; but few that are guilty of it can see it in themselves. Time was when Job had the last word in all debates (Job 29:22): After my words they spoke not again. Then he was in power and prosperity; but now that he was impoverished and brought low he could scarcely be allowed to speak at all, and every thing he said was as much vilified as formerly it had been magnified. Wisdom therefore (as the world goes) is good with an inheritance (Ecc 7:11); for the poor man's wisdom is despised, and, because he is poor, his words are not heard, Ecc 9:16.
II. With a regardlessness of what was said to him, intimated in that, Mark, and afterwards we will speak. And it is to no purpose to speak, though what is said be ever so much to the purpose, if those to whom it is addressed will not mark and observe it. Let the ear be opened to hear as the learned, and then the tongues of the learned will do good service (Isa 50:4) and not otherwise. It is an encouragement to those that speak of the things of God to see the hearers attentive.
III. With a haughty contempt and disdain of his friends and of that which they offered (Job 18:3): Wherefore are we counted as beasts? This was invidious. Job had indeed called them mockers, had represented them both as unwise and as unkind, wanting both in the reason and tenderness of men, but he did not count them beasts; yet Bildad so represents the matter, 1. Because his high spirit resented what Job had said as if it had been the greatest affront imaginable. Proud men are apt to think themselves slighted more than really they are. 2. Because his hot spirit was willing to find a pretence to be hard upon Job. Those that incline to be severe upon others will have it thought that others have first been so upon them.
IV. With outrageous passion: He teareth himself in his anger, Job 18:4. Herein he seems to reflect upon what Job had said (Job 13:14): Wherefore did I take my flesh in my teeth? "It is thy own fault," says Bildad. Or he reflected upon what he said Job 16:9, where he seemed to charge it upon God, or, as some think, upon Eliphaz: He teareth me in his wrath. "No," says Bildad; "thou alone shalt bear it." He teareth himself in his anger. Note, Anger is a sin that is its own punishment. Fretful passionate people tear and torment themselves. He teareth his soul (so the word is); every sin wounds the soul, tears that, wrongs that (Pro 8:36), unbridled passion particularly.
V. With a proud and arrogant expectation to give law even to Providence itself: "Shall the earth be forsaken for thee? Surely not; there is no reason for that, that the course of nature should be changed and the settled rules of government violated to gratify the humour of one man. Job, dost thou think the world cannot stand without thee; but that, if thou art ruined, all the world is ruined and forsaken with thee?" Some make it a reproof of Job's justification of himself, falsely insinuating that either Job was a wicked man or we must deny a Providence and suppose that God has forsaken the earth and the rock of ages is removed. It is rather a just reproof of his passionate complaints. When we quarrel with the events of Providence we forget that, whatever befals us, it is, 1. According to the eternal purpose and counsel of God. 2. According to the written word. Thus it is written that in the world we must have tribulation, that, since we sin daily, we must expect to smart for it; and, 3. According to the usual way and custom, the track of Providence, nothing but what is common to men; and to expect that God's counsels should change, his method alter, and his word fail, to please us, is as absurd and unreasonable as to think the earth should be forsaken for us and the rock removed out of its place.
Matthew Henry (1662–1714) — Commentary on the Whole Bible. This section covers verses 1–4. Public domain.
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John ChrysostomAD 407
COMMENTARY ON JOB 18:4B-C
Bildad speaks these words because Job did not refrain from complaining by saying that he wanted to die. What sort of consolation is this? How could he have disheartened him in another way? He said, in fact, that the “stretches under heaven would be desolate,” or did he mention his death as if it brought a great contribution to this life that is common to us? Actually Bildad says the opposite: a man is nothing and deserves no mention. Why do you say that? Then he also foolishly and haphazardly accuses the impious, in order to support his present argument. They cannot put the blame on [Job] for any evil action. But notice their perversity; by saying that great misfortunes will befall the impious, they mention those afflictions suffered by Job, naming his miseries in their words, as if they wanted to show that they alluded to him. Notice and observe that their remarks about others are addressed to him.
Gregory the DialogistAD 604
4. Heretics esteem whether a strong feeling for the rule of right, or the spiritual grace of holy preaching, not as good weight of virtue, but as the madness of fury. By which same fury they believe that ‘the souls of the faithful are ruined,’ in that they imagine that the life of the Church is destroyed by the very same means whereby they see she is made to kindle against themselves. It goes on;
Shall the earth be forsaken for thee?
5. For they think that they themselves worship God every where, that they themselves have occupied the whole world. What is it then to say, Shall the earth be forsaken for thee? but what they often say to the faithful, viz. ‘that if this thing which you say be true, all the earth is forsaken by God, which we ourselves already occupy from the multitude of us.’ Now the holy Church universal proclaims that God cannot be truly worshipped saving within herself, asserting that all they that are without her shall never be saved. But conversely heretics, who are confident that it is possible for them to be saved even without her pale, maintain that the Divine aid is rendered to them in every place. Whence they say; Shall the earth be forsaken for thee? i.e. ‘is it so, that whosoever is out of thee cannot be saved?’ Whence it is added further;
And shall the rocks be moved out of their place?
6. Heretics call those persons ‘rocks’ who in their views by the sublimity of their thoughts stand out in the human race, which same they glory that they have for teachers. But when Holy Church addresses herself to the task of gathering together the different erring preachers within the bosom of the right faith, what else is this but that she ‘removes the rocks from their places,’ that having a right view of things, they may lie down in humility within her, who aforetime were standing stiff in their own wrong notions? But heretics altogether make against the doing of this, and withstand the ‘rocks being moved out of their places’ on account of her voice, because they are averse that they, who among themselves, being lifted up in their thoughts, were embued with false doctrine, by coming to her should think what is true in a humble spirit.
7. Now, it very often happens that heretics, when they see any persons within the bosom of Holy Church travailing whether with want or calamities, lift themselves up directly in the presumption of righteousness, and whatsoever they see to have happened of an adverse kind to the faithful, they suppose it is done for their iniquities, not knowing doubtless that the complexion of the present life does not in the least degree prove the worth of men’s conduct. For very often both good things befal the bad, and bad ones befal the good, on the very principle that real goods are reserved for the good, and real ills for the bad, in the season of the eternal recompensing. Thus Bildad bearing a figure of heretics, who lift themselves up on the grounds of this life’s good fortune, swells against the strokes of blessed Job, as if with their voice in opposition to the reproach of the righteous, and expressly he is arguing against the ungodly indeed, but how wickedly he speaks in such terms against a good man, he is not aware.
Source: Quotations drawn from early Church Fathers and historical Christian theologians (AD 100–1500). Some quotes address the surrounding passage context rather than this verse alone.
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SUMMARY
Job 18:4 captures the escalating tension and profound misunderstanding between Job and his friend Bildad. In this verse, Bildad the Shuhite launches a scathing attack, accusing Job of self-destructive anger and arrogance. He rhetorically questions whether Job's personal suffering is so immense that it should cause the fundamental order of the universe to be disrupted or God's immutable laws to be altered. Bildad's words diminish Job's profound pain and reinforce a rigid, unyielding view of divine justice, failing to offer any comfort or empathy.
CONTEXT
EXPOSITION AND ANALYSIS
Key Word Analysis
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Literary Devices
Job 18:4 is rich in Rhetorical Question, a device where questions are posed not to elicit an answer, but to make a point or create a dramatic effect, implying an obvious "no." Bildad uses two such questions ("shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rock be removed out of his place?") to emphatically assert the immutability of cosmic and divine order, subtly accusing Job of arrogance for thinking his suffering could alter such fundamental realities. Furthermore, Metaphor and Symbolism are profoundly employed through the imagery of "the earth" and "the rock." These natural elements serve as powerful symbols of stability, permanence, and the unyielding order of creation, which Bildad contrasts with Job's perceived instability and rebellion. The idea that these fundamental elements could be "forsaken" or "removed" for Job's sake is a form of Hyperbole, an exaggeration used for emphasis, highlighting the absurdity of Job's perceived self-importance and the unreasonableness of his complaints in Bildad's eyes.
THEOLOGICAL AND THEMATIC CONNECTIONS
Job 18:4, though spoken by a misguided friend, inadvertently touches upon profound theological truths regarding God's sovereignty and the steadfastness of His creation, even as it misplies them to Job's situation. Bildad's words, while harsh and lacking empathy, remind us that God's character and the foundational order of His universe are not subject to human whims or even human suffering. This verse highlights the tension between human experience and divine immutability, a tension explored throughout Scripture. While God is deeply concerned with humanity, His ultimate purposes and the laws governing creation are not easily swayed. This passage also serves as a stark warning against a rigid, mechanistic view of divine justice that fails to account for the complexities of innocent suffering, a view that ultimately misrepresents God's character and alienates those in pain.
REFLECTION AND APPLICATION
Job 18:4, despite its origin in Bildad's flawed theology, offers profound lessons for our own lives and our interactions with others. It challenges us to consider our perspective in the face of suffering. While our personal trials are undeniably significant to us, they do not diminish God's sovereignty or alter the fundamental truths of His nature and creation. This perspective can be both humbling and comforting: humbling, because it guards against self-centeredness that might lead us to believe our problems should halt the universe; comforting, because it assures us that even amidst chaos, God remains steadfast on His throne, and His ultimate plan is unshakeable. Furthermore, this verse serves as a cautionary tale against the harsh judgment and lack of empathy so often displayed by Job's friends. When faced with the suffering of others, our primary call is to offer compassionate presence, listen, and mourn with those who mourn, rather than to impose rigid theological frameworks that may only deepen their pain and isolation. True wisdom involves both understanding God's unchanging nature and extending grace to those who are struggling.
Questions for Reflection
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What is Bildad's main point in this verse?
Answer: Bildad's main point in Job 18:4 is to assert the immutability of divine order and justice, implying that Job's suffering is a just consequence of his sin and that his passionate complaints are arrogant and self-destructive. He uses rhetorical questions ("shall the earth be forsaken for thee? and shall the rock be removed out of his place?") to emphasize that the stable, divinely established cosmic order will not be disrupted for one individual's suffering, no matter how severe. He believes Job is consumed by his own anger and that his personal distress is insignificant in the grand scheme of God's unyielding laws. This perspective is a core tenet of the retribution theology held by Job's friends, as further elaborated in Job 22.
Why does Bildad use the imagery of the earth and a rock?
Answer: Bildad uses the imagery of the earth and a rock to symbolize ultimate stability, permanence, and the unyielding nature of God's creation and His laws. In ancient Near Eastern thought, these elements represented foundational, immovable realities. By asking if the earth would be "forsaken" or a rock "removed" for Job, Bildad is rhetorically implying the absurdity and impossibility of such an event. He uses these powerful metaphors to underscore his conviction that God's established order—including His system of justice—is fixed and will not bend or change to accommodate Job's personal complaints or perceived innocence. This imagery reinforces his argument that Job's suffering is a just outcome within an unchanging divine framework, much like the steadfastness of creation mentioned in Psalm 119:90.
Does the Bible teach that God's laws are always rigid and unchanging, as Bildad implies?
Answer: While the Bible certainly teaches that God is unchanging in His character and covenant faithfulness (e.g., Malachi 3:6), and that His moral laws are eternal, Bildad's application of this principle is flawed. He presents a rigid, mechanistic view of divine retribution that does not account for the complexities of suffering, the mystery of God's ways, or the role of grace. The Book of Job itself challenges this simplistic "cause and effect" theology, demonstrating that righteous people can suffer without having committed specific sins. While God's foundational truths are indeed steadfast, His interaction with humanity is also marked by compassion, mercy, and a willingness to engage with human lament, as seen in passages like Psalm 34:18. The New Testament further reveals God's willingness to intervene in human suffering through Christ, as described in Hebrews 4:15.
CHRIST-CENTERED FULFILLMENT
Job 18:4, with its harsh accusations and rigid theology, stands in stark contrast to the compassionate and redemptive work of Jesus Christ. Bildad's assertion that the cosmic order would not be disturbed for one man's suffering is profoundly challenged by the Incarnation itself, where God, in Christ, stepped into the very chaos of human existence. While Bildad insisted the earth would not be "forsaken" for Job, Christ willingly "emptied himself" (Greek, kenosis) and took on human form, entering into the depths of human suffering (see Philippians 2:7). The "rock" that Bildad declared would not be "removed" is ultimately revealed to be Christ Himself, the cornerstone rejected by builders but chosen by God (see 1 Peter 2:6-7 and Ephesians 2:20). Far from being indifferent to human pain, Jesus demonstrated profound empathy, weeping with those who mourned (see John 11:35) and bearing the ultimate burden of sin and suffering on the cross. His sacrifice was precisely the "removal" of the rock of sin and death, establishing a new, unshakable foundation for humanity. In Christ, the problem of suffering is not dismissed or explained away by a rigid retribution theology, but is entered into and ultimately overcome, offering true comfort and a hope that transcends earthly trials (see Romans 8:18-39).