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King James Version
But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.
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KJV (with Strong's)
But he shall say H559, I am no prophet H5030, I am an husbandman H376 H5647 H127; for man H120 taught me to keep cattle H7069 from my youth H5271.
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Complete Jewish Bible
and instead, he will say, 'I'm no prophet, I just work the soil; since my youth I've only wanted to be an ordinary man.'
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Berean Standard Bible
He will say, ‘I am not a prophet; I work the land, for I was purchased as a servant in my youth.’
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American Standard Version
but he shall say, I am no prophet, I am a tiller of the ground; for I have been made a bondman from my youth.
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World English Bible Messianic
but he will say, ‘I am no prophet, I am a tiller of the ground; for I have been made a bondservant from my youth.’
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Geneva Bible (1599)
But he shall say, I am no Prophet: I am an husbandman: for man taught me to be an heardman from my youth vp.
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Young's Literal Translation
And one hath said, `I am not a prophet, A man, a tiller of ground I am, For ground is my possession from my youth.'
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SUMMARY

Zechariah 13:5 vividly portrays a false prophet, confronted by a divinely ordained era of purification, desperately disavowing his deceptive spiritual claims. Rather than confessing his past pretense, he attempts to escape the severe judgment awaiting false prophecy by asserting a humble, non-spiritual identity as a common laborer, claiming his skills were learned from human instruction rather than divine inspiration. This verse highlights the profound shift in Israel's spiritual landscape, where truth will prevail and deception will be exposed and rejected.

CONTEXT

  • Literary Context: Zechariah 13 is a pivotal chapter within the larger prophetic book, immediately following the vision of the shepherd king and preceding the final eschatological battle in chapter 14. The chapter opens with the promise of a "fountain opened for the house of David and for the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness" (Zechariah 13:1), signifying a profound spiritual purification. This cleansing extends specifically to the eradication of idolatry and, crucially, false prophecy. Verses 2-4 describe the radical measures taken against false prophets: God will "cut off the names of the idols out of the land" and "cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to depart" (Zechariah 13:2). The severity is underscored by the shocking image of parents piercing their own child for prophesying lies (Zechariah 13:3), and the false prophets themselves abandoning their distinctive, often rough, prophetic garments (like Elijah's hairy garment) out of shame (Zechariah 13:4). In this atmosphere of intense divine scrutiny and societal rejection, Zechariah 13:5 presents the false prophet's desperate attempt at self-preservation through denial.
  • Historical & Cultural Context: The book of Zechariah was written during the post-exilic period, around 520-518 BC, as the Jewish people had returned from Babylonian captivity and were rebuilding the Temple in Jerusalem. This was a time of spiritual renewal and a renewed emphasis on covenant faithfulness and purity. False prophets had been a persistent problem throughout Israel's history, often leading the people astray with messages of peace when judgment was due, or encouraging idolatry. True prophets, like Zechariah himself, were God's appointed messengers, often identified by their distinctive attire and authoritative pronouncements. The cultural understanding of a "husbandman" (or farmer) was that of a common, honest laborer, whose work was tangible and earthly, contrasting sharply with the spiritual claims of a prophet. For a prophet to claim to be a husbandman was to disavow any divine connection or spiritual authority, preferring the anonymity and safety of a mundane profession over the dangerous consequences of a fraudulent spiritual calling in a time of divine judgment.
  • Key Themes: Zechariah 13:5 significantly contributes to several overarching themes within the chapter and the broader prophetic message. Firstly, it powerfully illustrates the theme of Denial and Deception, as the false prophet attempts to mask his true, deceptive identity when faced with exposure and severe judgment. This highlights the self-preserving nature of those without genuine spiritual conviction. Secondly, the verse underscores the Rejection of False Authority, foreshadowing a future era when society, purified by God, will no longer tolerate fraudulent spiritual claims, forcing deceivers to abandon their pretense. Thirdly, it emphasizes the Consequences of False Prophecy, where the extreme measures taken against those who mislead God's people (even by their own families, as seen in Zechariah 13:3) underscore the gravity of leading God's people astray with lies. Finally, the stark contrast between a "prophet" and a "husbandman" highlights the theme of Authenticity vs. Pretense, symbolizing a societal shift from spiritual fraudulence to genuine, earthly labor, reflecting a desire for integrity and truth.

EXPOSITION AND ANALYSIS

Key Word Analysis

  • Say (Hebrew, ʼâmar', H559): This primitive root means "to say" and is used with great latitude, encompassing answering, appointing, boasting, commanding, declaring, demanding, and more. In Zechariah 13:5, its usage signifies a deliberate, verbal declaration of denial. The false prophet is actively speaking out, asserting a new identity, not merely thinking it. This active "saying" is a performative act of disavowal, intended to distance himself from his former, dangerous profession.
  • Prophet (Hebrew, nâbîyʼ', H5030): Derived from a root meaning "to bubble up" or "to announce," this term refers to a prophet or generally an inspired man, one who speaks for God. The false prophet's denial of being a nâbîyʼ is a direct rejection of the very identity he once claimed, highlighting the shame and fear associated with this title in the context of divine judgment. It underscores the contrast between a true messenger of God and one who merely pretends to be.
  • Husbandman (Hebrew, ʻâbad', H5647): This primitive root means "to work" in any sense, by implication to serve, till, or enslave. When combined with "man" (H376, ʼîysh) and "ground" (H127, ʼădâmâh), it forms the concept of a "man who works the ground" or a farmer. Here, ʻâbad emphasizes the practical, physical labor involved in tilling the soil or keeping cattle. By claiming to be an ʻâbad, the false prophet attempts to ground his identity in a mundane, verifiable profession, rather than a spiritual one that is now subject to severe scrutiny and punishment.

Verse Breakdown

  • "But he shall say, I [am] no prophet,": This opening clause marks a dramatic shift and a direct denial. The "he" refers to the false prophet, who, under the intense pressure of the coming purification and judgment, will explicitly repudiate his former identity. The declaration "I am no prophet" is a desperate attempt to disassociate himself from the dangerous spiritual calling he once feigned, acknowledging the severe consequences now attached to it.
  • "I [am] an husbandman;": Following the denial of his false prophetic role, the individual immediately asserts an alternative, humble identity. A "husbandman" refers to a farmer, one who works the land or tends to livestock. This profession is presented as the antithesis of a prophet—it is earthly, tangible, and carries no spiritual authority or pretense. It is a claim to a simple, honest, and non-threatening occupation, a stark contrast to the spiritual deception he previously practiced.
  • "for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.": This final clause provides the justification for his claimed identity, emphasizing its mundane and human origin. By stating that "man taught me," the false prophet explicitly denies any divine instruction or calling, reinforcing his disavowal of spiritual gifts. The phrase "from my youth" further solidifies this claim, suggesting a lifelong, practical trade learned through human apprenticeship, thereby attempting to establish a credible, non-spiritual history that would exempt him from the judgment reserved for false prophets.

Literary Devices

Zechariah 13:5 employs several potent literary devices to convey its message. Contrast is central, starkly juxtaposing the identity of a "prophet" with that of a "husbandman." This highlights the radical shift from spiritual pretense to mundane reality, underscoring the severity of the coming judgment. There is also a strong element of Irony, as the individual who once claimed divine inspiration now vehemently denies it, revealing the shallow and opportunistic nature of his original calling. Furthermore, the "husbandman" serves as Symbolism, representing honest, earthly labor in opposition to fraudulent spiritual claims. The act of claiming to have been taught "from my youth" by "man" rather than God is a form of Evasion, a desperate attempt to rewrite one's history and avoid accountability by emphasizing human, rather than divine, origins for one's skills.

THEOLOGICAL AND THEMATIC CONNECTIONS

Zechariah 13:5 speaks profoundly to the biblical themes of truth, deception, and divine judgment. It underscores God's unwavering commitment to the purity of His people and the integrity of His message. The severity of the consequences for false prophets in this passage reveals the profound offense of spiritual deception in God's eyes, as it leads people away from truth and into error. This divine intolerance for falsehood serves as a powerful reminder that God will ultimately purify His church, exposing and removing those who mislead for personal gain or false authority. The passage implicitly affirms the necessity of true prophecy and genuine spiritual authority, contrasting it with the desperate denial of the imposter.

REFLECTION AND APPLICATION

Zechariah 13:5 offers timeless lessons for believers and the church today, particularly concerning discernment and integrity. In an age saturated with diverse voices and spiritual claims, the call to "test the spirits" remains paramount. We are challenged to examine the source and substance of all teachings, ensuring they align with the unchanging Word of God, rather than relying on charismatic personalities or popular opinions. This verse reminds us that true humility does not deny a God-given calling but exercises it with responsibility, accountability, and faithfulness to divine truth. It also serves as a sobering warning against spiritual pretense and the grave consequences of leading others astray. Ultimately, Zechariah's prophecy instills hope that God's purifying work will prevail, exposing all deception and establishing truth within His people.

Questions for Reflection

  • How can we, as individuals and as a church, cultivate a deeper discernment to identify and reject false spiritual claims in our contemporary context?
  • What does the false prophet's desperate denial in Zechariah 13:5 teach us about the nature of spiritual deception and the importance of genuine conviction?
  • In what areas of our lives might we be tempted to deny our true identity or calling to avoid discomfort, scrutiny, or perceived negative consequences?

FAQ

Why does the false prophet claim to be a "husbandman" specifically?

Answer: The false prophet claims to be a "husbandman" (a farmer or one who tends cattle) to disavow any spiritual calling or connection to prophecy, which has become a dangerous and punishable profession in the era of purification described in Zechariah 13. This claim is a desperate attempt to escape judgment by adopting a humble, common, and non-spiritual identity. A husbandman's work is tangible, earthly, and learned from human instruction, contrasting sharply with the divine inspiration claimed by a prophet. By asserting this mundane trade, the individual hopes to blend into ordinary society and avoid the severe consequences awaiting those who have falsely claimed to speak for God.

What is the significance of the phrase "for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth"?

Answer: The phrase "for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth" is crucial because it further emphasizes the false prophet's complete denial of any divine origin for his skills or former claims. By stating that his trade was learned from "man" and "from my youth," he attempts to establish a lifelong, human-based apprenticeship, thereby negating any suggestion of a divine calling or spiritual gifting. This declaration serves as a justification for his new, non-prophetic identity, reinforcing his desperate attempt to distance himself from the dangerous title of "prophet" and the judgment associated with it in this time of spiritual cleansing. It highlights the contrast between human instruction and divine revelation, asserting that his life has always been rooted in the mundane, not the miraculous.

CHRIST-CENTERED FULFILLMENT

Zechariah 13:5, with its portrayal of a false prophet denying his calling in the face of divine purification, finds its ultimate fulfillment and counterpoint in the person and work of Jesus Christ. The "fountain opened for sin and uncleanness" in Zechariah 13:1 is profoundly realized in Christ's atoning sacrifice on the cross, which provides true and complete cleansing from sin for all who believe (1 John 1:7). Unlike the false prophet who denies his identity, Jesus is the True Prophet, the ultimate Word of God incarnate, who never denied His divine mission or identity, even unto death (John 18:37). He consistently spoke God's truth, fulfilling the prophecies of a prophet like Moses (Deuteronomy 18:15; Acts 3:22). Furthermore, Jesus' ministry actively exposed and condemned the false religious leaders and hypocrites of His day (Matthew 23), demonstrating God's unwavering commitment to purity and truth. The judgment against false prophecy in Zechariah foreshadows Christ's ultimate victory over all deception and the establishment of His kingdom, where truth reigns supreme and all falsehood is banished (Revelation 20:10). Thus, Zechariah 13:5, by depicting the desperate flight from false prophecy, indirectly points to the unwavering truth and purifying power embodied in Christ, the only one who truly speaks for God.

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Commentary on Zechariah 13 verses 1–6

Behold the Lamb of God taking away the sin of the world, the sin of the church; for therefore was the Son of God manifested, to take away our sin, Jo1 3:5.

I. He takes away the guilt of sin by the blood of his cross (Zac 13:1): In that day, in the gospel-day, there shall be a fountain opened, that is, provision made for the cleansing of all those from the pollutions of sin who truly repent and are sorry for them. In that day, when the Spirit of grace is poured out to set them a mourning for their sins, they shall not mourn as those who have no hope, but they shall have their sins pardoned, and the comfort of their pardon in their bosoms. Their consciences shall be purified and pacified by the blood of Christ, which cleanses from all sin, Jo1 1:7. For Christ is exalted to give both repentance and remission of sins; and where he gives the one no doubt he gives the other. This fountain opened is the pierced side of Jesus Christ, spoken of just before (Zac 12:10), for thence came there out blood and water, and both for cleansing. And those who look upon Christ pierced, and mourn for their sins that pierced him, and are therefore in bitterness for him, may look again upon Christ pierced and rejoice in him, because it pleased the Lord thus to smite this rock, that it might be to us a fountain of living waters. See here, 1. How we are polluted; we are all so; we have sinned, and sin is uncleanness; it defiles the mind and conscience, renders us odious to God and uneasy in ourselves, unfit to be employed in the service of God and admitted into communion with him, as those who were ceremonially unclean were shut out of the sanctuary. The house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem are under sin, which is uncleanness. The truth is, we are all as an unclean thing, and deserve to have our portion with the unclean. 2. How we may be purged. Behold, there is fountain opened for us to wash in, and there are streams flowing to us from that fountain, so that, if we be not made clean, it is our own fault. The blood of Christ, and God's pardoning mercy in that blood, revealed in the new covenant, are, (1.) A fountain; for there is in them an inexhaustible fulness. There is mercy enough in God, and merit enough in Christ, for the forgiving of the greatest sins and sinners, upon gospel-terms. Such were some of you, but you are washed, Co1 6:11. Under the law there were a brazen laver and a brazen sea to wash in; those were but vessels, but we have a fountain to ourselves, overflowing, ever-flowing. (2.) A fountain opened; for, whoever will, may come and take the benefit of it; it is opened, not only to the house of David, but to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, to the poor and mean as well as to the rich and great; or it is opened for all believers, who, as the spiritual seed of Christ, are of the house of David, and, as living members of the church, are inhabitants of Jerusalem. Through Christ all that believe are justified, are washed from their sins in his blood, that they may be made to our God kings and priests, Rev 1:5, Rev 1:6.

II. He takes away the dominion of sin by the power of his grace, even of beloved sins. This evermore accompanies the former; those that are washed in the fountain opened, as they are justified, so they are sanctified; the water came with the blood out of the pierced side of Christ. It is here promised that in that day, 1. Idolatry shall be quite abolished and the people of the Jews shall be effectually cured of their inclination to it (Zac 13:2): I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land. The worship of the idols of their fathers shall be so perfectly rooted out that in one generation or two it shall be forgotten that ever there were such idols among them; they shall either not be named at all or not with any respect; they shall no more be remembered, as was promised, Hos 2:17. This was fulfilled in the rooted aversion which the Jews had, after the captivity, to idols and idolatry, and still retain to this day; it was fulfilled also in the ready conversion of many to the faith of Christ, by which they were taken off from making an idol of the ceremonial law, as the unbelieving Jews did; and it is still in the fulfilling when souls are brought off from the world and the flesh, those two great idols, that they may cleave to God only. 2. False prophecy shall also be brought to an end: I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit, the prophets that are under the influence of the unclean spirit, to pass out of the land. The devil is an unclean spirit; sin and uncleanness are from him; he has his prophets, that serve his interests and receive their instructions from him. Take away the unclean spirit, and the prophets would not deceive as they do; take away the false prophets that produce sham commissions, and the unclean spirit could not do the mischief he does. When God designs the silencing of the false prophets he banishes the unclean spirit out of the land, that wrought in them, and was a rival with him for the throne in the heart. The church of the Jews, when they were addicted to idols, did also dote much upon false prophets, who flattered them in their sins with promises of impunity and peace; but here it is promised, as a blessed effect of the promised reformation, that they should be very much set against false prophets, and zealous to clear the land of them; they were so after the captivity, till, through the blindness of their zeal against false prophets, they had put Christ to death under that character, and, after that, there arose many false Christs and false prophets, and deceived many, Mat 24:11. It is here foretold, (1.) That false prophets, instead of being indulged and favoured, should be brought to condign punishment even by their nearest relations, which would be as great an instance as any of flagrant zeal against those deceivers (Zac 13:3): When any shall set up for a prophet, and shall speak lies in the name of the Lord, shall preach that which tends to draw people from God and to confirm them in sin, his own parents shall be the first and most forward to prosecute him for it, according to the law. Deu 13:6-11, "If thy son entice thee secretly from God, thou shalt surely kill him. Show thy indignation against him, and prevent any further temptation from him." His father and his mother shall thrust him through when he prophesies. Note, We ought to conceive, and always to retain, a very great detestation and dread of every thing that would draw us out of the way of our duty into by-paths, as those who cannot bear that which is evil, Rev 2:2. And holy zeal for God and godliness will make us hate sin, and dread temptation, most in those whom naturally we love best, and who are nearest to us; there our danger is greatest, as Adam's from Eve, Job's from his wife; and there it will be the most praiseworthy to show our zeal, as Levi, who, in the cause of God, did not acknowledge his brethren, nor know his own children, Deu 33:9. Thus we must hate and forsake our nearest relations when they come in competition with our duty to God, Luk 14:26. Natural affections, even the strongest, must be over-ruled by gracious affections. (2.) That false prophets should be themselves convinced of their sin and folly, and let fall their pretensions (Zac 13:4): "The prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision; they shall not repeat it, or insist upon it, but desire that it may be forgotten and no more said of it, being ready themselves to own it was a sham, because God has by his grace awakened their consciences and shown them their error, or because the event disproves their predictions, and gives them the lie, or because their prophecies do not meet with such a favourable reception as they used to meet with, but are generally despised and distasted; they perceive the people ashamed of them, which makes them begin to be ashamed of themselves. And therefore they shall no longer wear a rough garment, or garment of hair, as the true prophets used to do, in imitation of Elijah, and in token of their being mortified to the pleasures and delights of sense." The pretenders had appeared in the habit of true prophets; but, their folly being now made manifest, they shall lay it aside, no more to deceive and impose upon unthinking unwary people by it. A modest dress is a very good thing, if it be the genuine indication of a humble heart, and is to instruct; but it is a bad thing if it be the hypocritical disguise of a proud ambitious heart, and is to deceive. Let men be really as good as they seem to be, but not seem to be better than really they are. This pretender, as a true penitent, [1.] Shall undeceive those whom he had imposed upon: He shall say, "I am no prophet, as I have pretended to be, was never designed nor set apart to the office, never educated nor brought up for it, never conversant among the sons of the prophets. I am a husbandman, and was bred to that business; I was never taught of God to prophesy, but taught of man to keep cattle" Amos was originally such a one too, and yet was afterwards called to be a prophet, Amo 7:14, Amo 7:15. But this deceiver never had any such call. Note, Those who sorrow after a godly sort for their having deceived others will be forward to confess their sin, and will be so just as to rectify the mistakes which they have been the cause of. Thus those who had used curious arts, when they were converted showed their deeds, and by what fallacies they had cheated the people, Act 19:18. [2.] He shall return to his own proper employment, which is the fittest for him: I will be a husbandman (so it may be read); "I will apply myself to my calling again, and meddle no more with things that belong not to me; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth, and cattle I will again keep, and never set up for a preacher any more." Note, When we are convinced that we have gone out of the way of our duty we must evince the truth of our repentance by returning to it again, though it be the severest mortification to us. [3.] He shall acknowledge those to be his friends who by a severe discipline were instrumental to bring him to a sight of his error, Zac 13:6. When he who with the greatest assurance had asserted himself so lately to be a prophet suddenly drops his claims, and says, I am no prophet, every body will be surprised at it, and some will ask, "What are these wounds, or marks of stripes, in thy hands? how camest thou by them? Hast thou not been examined by scourging? And is not that it that has brought thee to thyself?" (Vexatio dat intellectum - Vexation sharpens the intellect.) "Hast thou not been beaten into this acknowledgment? Was it not the rod and reproof that gave thee this wisdom?" And he shall own, "Yes, it was; these are the wounds with which I was wounded in the house of my friends, who bound me, and used me hardly and severely, as a distracted man, and so brought me to my senses." By this it appears that those parents of the false prophet that thrust him through (Zac 13:3) did not do it till they had first tried to reclaim him by correction, and he would not be reclaimed; for so was the law concerning a disobedient son - his parents must first have chastened him in vain before they were allowed to bring him forth to be stoned, Deu 21:18, Deu 21:19. But here is another who was reduced by stripes, and so prevented the capital punishment; and he had the sense and honesty to own that they were his friends, his real friends, who thus wounded him, that they might reclaim him; for faithful are the wounds of a friend, Pro 27:6. Some good interpreters, observing how soon this comes after the mention of Christ's being pierced, think that these are the words of that great prophet, not of the false prophet spoken of before. Christ was wounded in his hands, when they were nailed to the cross, and, after his resurrection, he had the marks of these wounds; and here he tells how he came by them; he received them as a false prophet, for the chief priests called him a deceiver, and upon that account would have him crucified; but he received them in the house of his friends - the Jews, who should have been his friends; for he came to his own, and, though they were his bitter enemies, yet he was pleased to call them his friends, as he did Judas (Friend, wherefore hast thou come?) because they forwarded his sufferings for him; as he called Peter Satan - an adversary, because he dissuaded him from them.

Matthew Henry (1662–1714) — Commentary on the Whole Bible. This section covers verses 1–6. Public domain.
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Commentary on Zechariah
(Vers. 3 seqq.) And on that day, the prophets will be confused, each one from his own vision, when he prophesies, and they will not cover themselves with a sackcloth to deceive. Instead, they will say, 'I am not a prophet, I am a farmer, for Adam is my example from my youth.' And it will be said to him, 'What are these wounds in the middle of your hands?' And he will say, 'I have been wounded in the house of those who love me.' LXX: And on that day, the prophets will be confused, each one from his own vision, when he prophesies, and they will wear a hairy garment with which they have deceived, and they will say, 'I am not a prophet, because a man has begotten me from my youth,' and I will say to him, 'What are these wounds in the middle of your hands?' And he will say: To whom have I been struck in the house of the one who loves me? Whoever attempts to prophesy and is condemned by the judgment of his parents, and approves the falsehood of his prophecy by contrary outcomes, he will be confounded by his vision, and he will no longer be covered with a hairshirt in order to lie. For this was the attire of the prophets, that when they called the people to repentance, they would be clothed in a hairshirt. Therefore, it is commanded to Isaiah to take the sackcloth from his loins, and to walk naked (Isa. XX): for it is not at all a time of repentance, but of imminent captivity. Therefore, this false prophet will by no means receive the prophet's garb, so as not to deceive the simple under a foreign guise and covering. Rather, he will find delight in tilling the earth and prove himself dedicated to agriculture, subjecting himself to the divine sentence that was spoken to Adam: 'Cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth to you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread' (Gen. III, 17-18). And when he presents himself as born for this purpose, to eat his bread in the sweat of his face, another will ask him, and say: What do these wounds mean to you, and these wounds which are in the midst of your hands? And there is meaning: Why do you adhere to the gallows? Why are your hands pierced with nails? What have you committed, that you should submit to this punishment and torture? And he will answer, and say: I received these wounds and these lashes, condemned by the judgment of my parents, and of those who did not hate me, but loved me. And in the meantime, with falsehood dispelled, truth will prevail, so that even he who is punished for his own fault admits that he has suffered rightly. The Hebrews have explained this, which is written: 'They will not cover themselves with a sackcloth to lie,' saying that they will not be filled with the demonic spirit, whom we read in Isaiah as 'hairy,' so that by this occasion they may not lie about the deceptive appearance of God's words in themselves, or deny the Lord: For they lie and deny in their external appearance, as they interpret.
Source: Quotations drawn from early Church Fathers and historical Christian theologians (AD 100–1500). Some quotes address the surrounding passage context rather than this verse alone.
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