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“Comparison to the Fall of Thebes”· Nahum 3:8–10
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King James Version
¶ Art thou better than populous No, that was situate among the rivers, that had the waters round about it, whose rampart was the sea, and her wall was from the sea?
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KJV (with Strong's)
Art thou better H3190 than populous H527 H528 No H4996, that was situate H3427 among the rivers H2975, that had the waters H4325 round about H5439 it, whose rampart H2426 was the sea H3220, and her wall H2346 was from the sea H3220?
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Complete Jewish Bible
Are you any better than No-Amon, located among the streams of the Nile, with water all around her, the flood her wall of defense?
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Berean Standard Bible
Are you better than Thebes, stationed by the Nile with water around her, whose rampart was the sea, whose wall was the water?
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American Standard Version
Art thou better than No-amon, that was situate among the rivers, that had the waters round about her; whose rampart was the sea, and her wall was of the sea?
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World English Bible Messianic
Are you better than No-Amon, who was situated among the rivers, who had the waters around her; whose rampart was the sea, and her wall was of the sea?
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Geneva Bible (1599)
Art thou better then No, which was ful of people? that lay in the riuers, and had the waters round about it? whose ditche was the sea, and her wall was from the sea?
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Young's Literal Translation
Art thou better than No-Ammon, That is dwelling among brooks? Waters she hath round about her, Whose bulwark is the sea, waters her wall.
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Summary

Nahum 3:8 delivers a scathing rhetorical question to Nineveh, the capital of Assyria, challenging its perceived invincibility by comparing it to the fallen Egyptian city of No (Thebes). The verse highlights No's formidable natural and man-made defenses—its strategic location among rivers, surrounded by waters, with the Nile serving as its rampart and wall—and implicitly warns Nineveh that its own impressive fortifications and power will be equally ineffective against the sovereign judgment of God, just as No's were. This serves as a potent reminder that no earthly power can ultimately withstand divine decree.

Context

Literary Context

Nahum 3:8 is embedded within Nahum's prophetic oracle against Nineveh, specifically in the third chapter, which vividly portrays the city's impending destruction. Chapter 1 establishes the character of God as a jealous and avenging God who is slow to anger but great in power, setting the stage for the judgment to come. Chapter 2 describes the siege and fall of Nineveh in graphic detail, using military imagery. Chapter 3 continues this theme, focusing on Nineveh's moral depravity and the reasons for its downfall, particularly its idolatry, violence, and treachery. Verse 8 acts as a pivotal rhetorical question, drawing a historical parallel to underscore the certainty of Nineveh's fate. It immediately follows a description of Nineveh as a "bloody city" full of lies and plunder, justifying the severe judgment that is about to be pronounced.

Historical & Cultural Context

The city of "No" refers to Thebes, the ancient capital of Upper Egypt and a major religious and political center. At its zenith, Thebes was one of the wealthiest and most powerful cities in the ancient world, boasting immense temples (like Karnak and Luxor) and a strategic location on the Nile River, which provided both sustenance and defense. Its fall to the Assyrian king Ashurbanipal in 663 BCE was a monumental event, demonstrating that even a city of such renown and formidable defenses could be conquered. This event would have been well-known to Nahum's audience, making the comparison particularly poignant and terrifying for Nineveh. Nineveh itself was the formidable capital of the Neo-Assyrian Empire, known for its massive walls, advanced military, and brutal conquests. The Assyrians had previously sacked Thebes, making Nahum's rhetorical question a chilling reminder of their own vulnerability, turning their past triumph into a prophecy of their future demise.

Key Themes

This verse powerfully contributes to several overarching themes within Nahum and the broader prophetic literature. Firstly, it underscores the theme of Divine Sovereignty and Judgment, demonstrating that God's power transcends all human and natural defenses. The fall of Thebes serves as a historical precedent, illustrating God's absolute authority over nations and empires, a truth echoed in Psalm 2:4-5, which speaks of God's derision of earthly kings. Secondly, it highlights the theme of Pride and Humiliation. Nineveh, like Thebes, was characterized by its immense power and perceived invincibility, leading to arrogance. The rhetorical question directly challenges this hubris, reminding Nineveh that its strength is no match for divine decree, a principle found throughout Scripture, as in Proverbs 16:18, "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall". Finally, the verse speaks to the Futility of Earthly Security. Both Thebes and Nineveh relied on their strategic locations, natural barriers, and impressive fortifications. Nahum 3:8 emphasizes that such human-made or natural securities are ultimately insufficient when God's judgment is at hand, a concept reinforced by Psalm 33:16-17, which declares that no king is saved by the size of his army.

Exposition and Analysis

Key Word Analysis

Better yâṭab' H3190

Meaning "to be (causative) make well, literally (sound, beautiful) or figuratively (happy, successful, right)." In this context, the root implies superiority, advantage, or greater security. The rhetorical question "Art thou better...?" challenges Nineveh's assumption that its position, power, or defenses are superior to those of Thebes, implying that if Thebes fell, Nineveh is certainly not immune.

No Nôʼ' H4996

Of Egyptian origin, referring to Thebes, the capital of Upper Egypt. This name, sometimes expanded to No-amon (City of Amon, referring to the chief deity of Thebes), points to its religious and political significance. Its inclusion here is crucial as it grounds the prophecy in a recent, well-known historical event—the sack of Thebes by the Assyrians themselves—making the comparison particularly potent and ironic.

Rampart chêyl' H2426

Meaning "an intrenchment" or "bulwark." This term denotes a defensive embankment or outer fortification, often a wall or earthwork. The verse describes the "sea" (likely the Nile and its canals) as Thebes' rampart, emphasizing the natural, seemingly impenetrable defenses that surrounded the city, making it difficult to assault. This highlights the city's reliance on its unique geography for protection.

Verse Breakdown

"Art thou better than populous No,"

This is the central rhetorical question of the verse. It directly challenges Nineveh's perceived invincibility and arrogance by comparing it to Thebes (No), a city that was once mighty and renowned for its vast population and wealth, but which had recently fallen. The implied answer is a resounding "No," setting up the certainty of Nineveh's own impending doom.

"that was situate among the rivers,"

This clause describes Thebes' strategic geographical location. The city was built along the Nile River, which, along with its numerous canals and waterways, provided natural barriers and defenses. This detail emphasizes the city's seemingly secure position, making its fall even more remarkable and a potent warning to Nineveh.

"[that had] the waters round about it,"

This further elaborates on Thebes' aquatic defenses. The "waters" refer to the extensive network of the Nile and its branches, which encircled the city, acting as a natural moat. This imagery reinforces the idea of Thebes' natural impregnability, highlighting the futility of even the most formidable defenses against divine judgment.

"whose rampart [was] the sea,"

Here, the "sea" is a metaphorical reference to the Nile River and its associated canals, which served as the city's primary outer defense or "rampart." This personification elevates the river to the status of a protective fortification, underscoring how integral the waterways were to Thebes' security.

"[and] her wall [was] from the sea?"

This final clause reinforces the previous one, using "wall" (a more common term for a city's defense) to reiterate that Thebes' protection derived directly from the surrounding "sea" (the Nile system). The repetition emphasizes the completeness and natural strength of Thebes' defenses, making its conquest by the Assyrians a powerful precedent for Nineveh's own vulnerability.

Literary Devices

Nahum 3:8 masterfully employs several literary devices to convey its powerful message. The most prominent is the Rhetorical Question, "Art thou better than populous No...?" This question is not meant to be answered literally but to provoke thought and emphasize the prophet's point: Nineveh is definitively not better and will suffer a similar fate. This device directly challenges Nineveh's pride and self-assurance. Juxtaposition and Comparison are central to the verse, as Nineveh's current state of power is directly contrasted with the recent fall of Thebes. This comparison serves as a stark warning and a historical precedent for divine judgment. Metaphor is evident in the description of the Nile River as Thebes' "rampart" and "wall," transforming a natural feature into a formidable military defense. This imagery highlights the seemingly impenetrable nature of Thebes, making its downfall even more significant. The implied Irony is also palpable: Assyria, which conquered Thebes, is now being warned that it will suffer a similar fate, turning their past triumph into a prophetic mirror of their own destruction.

Theological and Thematic Connections

Nahum 3:8 profoundly illustrates the theological principle of divine sovereignty over all nations and the certainty of God's judgment against unrepentant pride and wickedness. By drawing a parallel between Nineveh and the fallen city of Thebes, the prophet underscores that no amount of human strength, strategic advantage, or formidable defenses can ultimately withstand the decree of the Almighty. This verse serves as a powerful reminder that earthly empires, no matter how grand or seemingly invincible, are transient and ultimately subject to the will of the one true God. It teaches that reliance on human power and security is ultimately futile, and that true security is found only in submission to divine authority. The fall of Thebes, at the hands of the Assyrians themselves, becomes a chilling historical precedent, demonstrating that God uses even wicked nations as instruments of His judgment, only to judge those instruments in turn when their own iniquity is full.

Reflection and Application

Nahum 3:8 is a timeless and sobering reminder that all earthly power, security, and pride are ultimately fleeting and subject to the sovereign will of God. For individuals, this verse calls us to examine where we place our ultimate trust and security. Do we rely on our financial stability, our professional achievements, our social status, or even our physical health as our "rampart" and "wall"? Or do we acknowledge that these are temporary and can be swept away? The example of Thebes and Nineveh compels us to cultivate humility, recognizing that any strength or advantage we possess is a gift from God, not a basis for arrogance or self-sufficiency. It encourages us to shift our reliance from the temporal to the eternal, placing our faith and hope in God alone, who is an unshakeable refuge and a constant help in times of trouble. Furthermore, this passage serves as a warning against nationalistic pride or the belief that any nation is immune to divine judgment because of its military might or economic power. True blessedness for a nation, as for an individual, comes from righteousness and submission to God's ways, not from the strength of its defenses.

Questions for Reflection

  1. Where do I tend to place my ultimate trust and security in life? Is it in something temporal or eternal?
  2. In what areas of my life might I be exhibiting pride or an over-reliance on my own strength or resources?
  3. How does the historical example of Thebes and Nineveh challenge my understanding of human power and divine sovereignty?
  4. What practical steps can I take to cultivate greater humility and reliance on God in my daily life?

FAQ

What is "populous No" and why is it mentioned here?

"Populous No" refers to the ancient Egyptian city of Thebes, known in Hebrew as No or No-amon (City of Amon). At its height, Thebes was one of the most powerful, wealthy, and populous cities in the ancient world, serving as the capital of Upper Egypt and a major religious center. It was renowned for its immense temples, vast treasures, and formidable natural defenses provided by the Nile River and its intricate network of canals. It is mentioned in Nahum 3:8 because it had recently fallen to the Assyrians (specifically Ashurbanipal) in 663 BCE. This event was a significant historical trauma, demonstrating that even a city of such grandeur and seemingly impenetrable defenses could be conquered. By comparing Nineveh to Thebes, Nahum delivers a powerful rhetorical challenge, implying that if Thebes fell, Nineveh's own impressive fortifications and power would be equally futile against God's judgment.

How could the "sea" be a rampart and wall for Thebes?

In this context, "sea" (Hebrew yâm) is used metaphorically to refer to the Nile River and its extensive system of canals and floodwaters that surrounded Thebes. The Nile was not just a river but a vast, dynamic waterway that, especially during its annual inundation, could create natural barriers, making the city exceptionally difficult to approach and assault. These waterways served as both a protective moat and a means of transportation, forming a natural "rampart" (an outer defensive embankment) and "wall" against invading armies. This imagery emphasizes the seemingly impregnable natural defenses that Thebes possessed, making its fall a more striking testament to the power of God's judgment.

Christ-Centered Fulfillment

Nahum 3:8, with its stark portrayal of the fall of mighty earthly cities, points forward to the ultimate triumph of God's kingdom and the unshakeable reign of Christ. The futility of relying on human defenses and the certainty of judgment against prideful empires find their ultimate resolution and counterpoint in the person and work of Jesus. While Thebes and Nineveh, with all their "ramparts" and "walls," crumbled, Jesus Christ established a kingdom that "shall never be destroyed" (Daniel 2:44). He is the true and eternal "rampart" and "wall" for His people, offering a security far greater than any earthly fortification. The "waters" that surrounded Thebes, meant for defense, ultimately failed; but in Christ, we find the "living water" that quenches spiritual thirst and leads to eternal life (John 4:10-14). The judgment pronounced upon proud cities in Nahum foreshadows Christ's ultimate victory over all sin, death, and the powers that oppose God. His humility, culminating in His sacrifice on the cross, stands in stark contrast to the pride that led to the downfall of Thebes and Nineveh, demonstrating that true strength is found not in worldly might but in humble obedience and self-giving love, a path that leads to resurrection and eternal life for all who believe (Philippians 2:5-11). Thus, Nahum's warning to Nineveh becomes a call for all humanity to abandon reliance on fleeting earthly securities and find their ultimate refuge and hope in the enduring, sovereign King, Jesus Christ.

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Matthew Henry

From his Commentary on the Whole Bible. Henry comments on passages, not single verses — this entry covers Nahum 3:8–19. His three-level outline is real structure in the source text, so it is rendered as structure.

1662–1714 · 12 verses
Passage under commentNahum 3:8–19
I. II. Main points1. 2. Sub-points(1.) (2.) Details

Nineveh has been told that God is against her, and then none can be for her, to stand her in any stead; yet she sets God himself at defiance, and his power and justice, and says, I shall have peace. Threatened folks live long; therefore here the prophet largely shows how vain her confidences would prove and insufficient to ward off the judgment of God. To convince them of this,

I.He shows them that other places, which had been as strong and as secure as they, could not keep their ground against the judgments of God.

Nineveh shall fall unpitied and uncomforted (for miserable comforters will those prove who speak peace to those on whom God will fasten trouble), and she shall not be able to help herself: Art thou better than populous No? Nah 3:8. He takes them off from their vain confidences by quoting precedents. The city mentioned is No, a great city in the land of Egypt (Jer 46:25), No-Ammon, so some read it both there and here. We read of it, Eze 30:14-16. Some think it was Diospolis, others Alexandria. As God said to Jerusalem, Go, see what I did to Shiloh (Jer 7:12), so to Nineveh that great city, Go, see what I did to populous No. Note, It will help to keep us in a holy fear of the judgments of God to consider that we are not better than those that have fallen under those judgments before us. We deserve them as much, and are as little able to grapple with them. This also should help to reconcile us to afflictions. Are we better than such and such, who were in like manner exercised? Nay, were not they better than we, and less likely to be afflicted? Now, concerning No, observe,

1.How firm her standing seemed to be, Nah 3:8. She was fortified both by nature and art, was situate among the rivers. Nile, in several branches, not only watered her fields, but guarded her wall. Her rampart was the sea, the lake of Mareotis, an Egyptian sea, like the sea of Tiberias. Her wall was from the sea; it was fenced with a wall which was thought to make the place impregnable. It was also supported by its interests and alliances abroad, Nah 3:9. Ethiopia, or Arabia, was her strength, either by the wealth brought to her in a way of trade or by the auxiliary forces furnished for military service. The whole country of Egypt also contributed to the strength of this populous city; so that it was infinite, and there was no end of it (so it might be rendered); She set no bounds to her ambition and knew no end of her wealth and strength; people flocked to her endlessly, and she thought there never would be any end of it; but it is God's prerogative to be infinite. Put and Lubim were thy helpers, two neighbouring countries of Africa, Mauritania and Libya, that is, Libya Cyrenica, a country that Egypt had much dependence upon. No, thus helped, seemed to sit as a queen, and was not likely to see any sorrow. But,

2.See how fatal her fall proved to be (v, 10): Yet was she carried away, and her strength failed her; even she that was so strong, so secure, yet went into captivity. This refers to some destruction of that city which was then well-known, and probably fresh in memory, though not recorded in history; for the destruction of it by Nebuchadnezzar (if we should understand this prophetically) could not be made an example to Nineveh; for the reducing of Nineveh was one of the first of his victories and that of Egypt one of the last. The strength and grandeur of that great city could not be its protection from military execution.

(1.)Not from that which was most barbarous; for her young children had no compassion shown them, but were dashed in pieces at the top of all the streets by the merciless conquerors.

(2.)Not from that which was most inglorious and disgraceful: They cast lots for her honourable men that were made prisoners of war, who should have them for their slaves. So many had they of them that they knew not what to do with them, but they made sport with throwing dice for them; all her great men, that used to be adorned on state-days with chains of gold, were now bound in chains of iron; they were pinioned or handcuffed (so the word properly signifies), not only as slaves, but as condemned malefactors. What a mortification was this to populous No, to have her honourable men and great men, that were her pride and confidence, thus abused! Now hence he infers against Nineveh (Nah 3:11), "Thou also shalt be intoxicated, infatuated; thou also shalt reel and stagger, as drunk with the cup of the Lord's fury, that shall be put into thy hand" (see Jer 25:17, Jer 25:27); "Thou shalt fall and rise no more. The cup shall go round, and come to thy turn, O Nineveh! to drink off at last, and shall be to thee as the waters of jealousy."

II.He shows them that all those things which they reposed a confidence in should fail them.

1.Did the men of Nineveh trust to their own magnanimity and bravery? Their hearts should sink and fail them. They shall be hid, shall abscond for shame, being in disgrace, abscond for fear, being in distress and danger, and not able to face the enemies, because of whose strength and terror, having no strength of their own, they shall seek strength, shall come sneaking to their neighbours to beg their assistance in a time of need. Thus God can cut off the spirit of princes, and take away their heart.

2.Did they depend upon their barrier, the garrisons and strongholds they had, which were regularly fortified and bravely manned? Those shall prove but paper-walls, and like the first-ripe figs, which, if you give the tree but a little shake, will fall into the mouth of the eater that gapes for them; so easily will all their strongholds be made to surrender to the advancing enemy, upon the first summons, Nah 3:12. Note, Strongholds, even the strongest, are no fence against the judgments of God, when they come with commission. The rich man's wealth is his strong city, and a high wall, but only in his own conceit, Pro 18:10. They are supposed to make their strongholds as strong as possible, and are challenged to do their utmost to make them tenable, and serviceable to them against the invader (Nah 3:14): Draw thee water for the siege; lay in great quantities of water, that that which is so necessary to the support of human life may not be wanting; it is put here for all manner of provision, with which Nineveh is ironically told to furnish herself, in expectation of a siege. "Take ever so much care that thou mayest not be starved out, and forced by famine to surrender, yet that shall not avail. Fortify the strongholds, by adding out-works to them, or putting men and arms into them," as with us by planting cannon upon them. "Go into clay, and tread the mortar, and make strong the brick-kiln; take all the pains thou canst in erecting new fortifications; but it shall be all in vain, for (Nah 3:15) there shall even the fire devour thee if it be taken by storm." It is by fire and sword that in time of war the great devastations are made.

3.Did they put confidence in the multitude of their inhabitants? Were they, from their number and valour, reckoned their strongest walls and fortifications? Alas! these shall stand them in no stead; they shall but sink the sooner under the weight of their own numbers (Nah 3:13): Thy people in the midst of thee are women; they have no wisdom, no courage; they shall be fickle, feeble, and faint-hearted, as women commonly are in such times of danger and distress; they shall be at their wits' end, adding to their griefs and fears by the power of their own imagination, and utterly unable to do any thing for themselves; the valiant men shall become cowards. O ver Phrygiae, neque enim Phryges - Phrygian dames, not Phrygian men. Though they make themselves many (Nah 3:15), as the canker-worm and as the locust, that come in vast swarms, though thou hast multiplied thy merchants above the stars of heaven, though thy exchange be thronged with wealthy traders, who, having so much money to stand up in defence of and so much to lay out in the means of their defence, should, one would think, give the enemy a warm reception, yet their hearts shall fail them too; though they be numerous as caterpillars, yet the fire and sword shall eat them up easily and irresistibly as the canker-worm, Nah 3:15. They are as numerous as those wasting insects, but their enemies shall be mischievous like them. He adds (Nah 3:16), The canker-worm spoils, or spreads herself, and flies away. Both the merchants and the enemies were compared to canker-worms. The enemies shall spoil Nineveh, and carry away the spoil, without opposition, or any hope of recovering it. Or the rich merchants, who have come from abroad to settle in Nineveh, and have raised vast estates there, out of which it was hoped they would contribute largely for the defence of the city, when they see the country invaded and the city likely to be besieged, will send away their effects, and remove to some other place, will spread their wings and fly away where they may be safe, and Nineveh shall be never the better for them. Note, It is rare to find even those that have shared with us in our joys willing to share with us in our griefs too. The canker-worms will continue upon the field while there is any thing to be had, but they are gone when all is gone. Those that men have got by they do not care to lose by. Nineveh's merchants bid her farewell in her distress. Riches themselves are as the canker-worms, which on a sudden fly away as the eagle towards heaven, Pro 23:5.

4.Did they put a confidence in the strength of their gates and bars? What fence will those be against the force of the judgments of God? Nah 3:13. The gates of thy land shall be set wide open unto thy enemies, the gates of thy rivers (Nah 2:6), the flood-gates, or the passes and avenues, by which the enemy would make his entrance into the country, or the gates of the cities; these, though ever so strong and well-guarded, shall not answer their end: The fire shall devour thy bars, the bars of thy gates, and then they shall fly open.

5.Did they put a confidence in their king and princes? They should do them no service (Nah 3:17): Thy crowned heads are as the locusts; those that had pomp and power, as crowned heads, were enfeebled, and had no power to make resistance, when the enemy came in like a flood. "Thy captains, that should lead thy forces into the field, are great indeed, and look great, but they are as the great grasshoppers, the maximum quod sic - the largest specimens of that species; still they are but grasshoppers, worthless things, that can do no service. They encamp in the hedges, in the cold day, the cold weather, but, when the sun arises, they flee away, and are gone, nobody knows whither. So these mercenary soldiers that lay slumbering about Nineveh, when any trouble arises, flee away, and shift for their own safety. The hireling flees, because he is a hireling." The king of Assyria is told, and it is a shame he needs to be told it (who might observe it himself), that his shepherds slumber; they have no life or spirit to appear for the flock, and are very remiss in the discharge of the duty of their place and the trust reposed in them: Thy nobles shall dwell in the dust, and be buried in silence.

6.Did they hope that they should yet recover themselves and rally again? In this also they should be disappointed; for, when the shepherds are smitten, the sheep are scattered; the people are dispersed upon the mountains and no man gathers them, nor will they ever come together of themselves, but will wander endlessly, as scattered sheep do. The judgment they are under is as a wound, and it is incurable; there is no relief for it, "no healing of thy bruise, no possibility that the wound, which is so grievous and painful to thee, should be so much as skinned over; thy case is desperate (Nah 3:19) and thy neighbours, instead of lending a hand to help thee, shall clap their hands over thee, and triumph in thy fall; and the reason is, because thou hast been one way or other injurious to them all: Upon whom has not thy wickedness passed continually? Thou hast been always doing mischief to those about thee; there is none of them but what thou hast abused and insulted; and therefore they shall be so far from pitying thee that they shall be glad to see thee reckoned with." Note, Those that have been abusive to their neighbours will, one time or another, find it come home to them; they are but preparing enemies to themselves against their day comes to fall: and those that dare not lay hands on them themselves will clap their hands over them, and upbraid them with their former wickedness, for which they are now well enough served and paid in their own coin. The troublers shall be troubled will be the burden of many, as it is here the burden of Nineveh.

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2 surviving comments on this verse. Each one is dated, so this reads as a timeline rather than a list.

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AD 420JeromePost-NiceneSourceCommentary on Nahum
(Verse 8 and following) Are you better than Amon ((Vulgate: Alexandria of the nations)), who lived by the rivers? Her water was like a sea, her walls were like fortifications, Ethiopia and Egypt were her strength, and there was no end to her wealth; Africa and Libya were her allies. But she too was led into captivity, her young children were dashed to pieces at every street corner, her nobles were cast lots upon, and all her dignitaries were bound in chains. And so you will be intoxicated and despised; and you will seek your help from your enemies, all your fortresses like fig trees with their ripe fruit, if they are shaken, will fall into the mouth of the eater. LXX: Aptly did Ammon, who dwells in rivers, water surrounding it, whose beginning is the sea, and its water is a wall. Ethiopia is its strength and Egypt, and there is no end to your flight. Put and the Libyans have become its helpers, and it itself will go into exile, and its little ones will be dashed to pieces at the head of its roads, and they will cast lots over all its noble men, and all its princes will be bound in fetters; and you will be intoxicated and despised, and you will seek there to stand against your enemies; all your fortresses, like fig trees with ripe fruit, if they are shaken, will fall into the mouth of the eater. Because in the Septuagint it is read, Apta chordam, the part of Ammon; and the other interpreters have translated: Are you better than Amon? The Hebrew scholar who instructed me in the Scriptures asserted that it could be read as: Are you better than No, Amon? And he said, in Hebrew No is called Alexandria: but Amon means multitude, or peoples, and is the order of reading: Are you better than populous Alexandria, or the peoples that dwell by its rivers, with water surrounding it? Not because at that time it was called Alexandria, since it received its name long after Alexander the Great, the Macedonian; but because under its first name, that is, No, it was always the metropolis of Egypt and exceedingly populated. Finally, even those who recorded the deeds of Alexander believe that it was the chief city of Egypt. Moreover, the prophet Jeremiah, understanding by Amon or No Alexandria in his vision against Egypt, to which he says: Beautiful heifer Egypt, a destroyer comes from the north to her (Jer. 46:20), also adds more clearly: The daughter of Egypt is put to shame, given into the hand of the people of the north, says the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel. Behold, I will visit upon Amon of Menno () , that is, upon the mound (or tomb) of Alexandria (Ibid., 24 ff.): For Amon, as we said, signifies peoples; But Men the preposition de signifies; And No signifies Alexandria. And he says, I will visit upon Pharaoh, and upon Egypt, and upon its gods, and upon its kings, and upon Pharaoh, and upon those who hope in it; and I will give into the hand of those seeking their souls, and into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, and into the hand of his servants. Therefore it is said to Nineveh: Are you richer or more powerful than Alexandria? And the location of Alexandria is described, which is situated on the Nile and the sea, surrounded by waters and rivers on both sides. Water surrounds it, the wealth of the sea; its walls are made of water: on one side by the Nile River, on the other side by Lake Mareotis, and on another side by the sea. The fact that Ethiopia and Egypt, and Africa, which is called Phut in Hebrew, and Libya are under its protection, demonstrates the location of the provinces and the city. And so, as the prophet says, this is how your speech describes it, will be captured by the Babylonian king, and he will be both your devastator and his. This is also recounted by Josephus, a writer of Jewish history, in his books. Her little ones will be dashed in the streets, her nobles will be divided by the lot of the victors, and the once mighty princes will be led away in chains. Therefore, as Alexandria suffers these things, you, O Nineveh, will drink from the same cup, and you will be intoxicated and despised while lying in a state of unconsciousness, and you will come to such great necessity that you will seek help from the Babylonians or against the Babylonians, from your enemies. All your firmaments and walls stretching high, and the heights of towers, which you now think are impregnable, and your strong men and warriors will be compared to primitive figs, which if shaken with a light touch, will fall and be devoured. For what is read in the Septuagint: 'Fit, or compose a chord,' is still said to Nineveh. And the meaning is: Your disorderly and unarranged, and discordant in different ways, is fitted to the likeness of chords, Nineveh, because your appearance and greatness, which you believe to be exceptional, will be of no use to you unless you fit yourself for singing. Consider then all the part of the lot of the sons of Ammon, and whatever possessions are considered good, how did they not defend them so that they would not go into captivity, and so that their little ones would not stumble in the ways? What good were the rivers near which the city of Ammon was situated? What, besides the rivers, did the multitude of wells and springs, beginning from the Dead Sea and surrounding its region, provide to it? What help did Ethiopia and Egypt, once its allies, provide to it? How then did the help of the allies not benefit her? In this way, Ninive, there will be no end to your fleeing, but you will be devastated here and there. What can I say of the Ethiopians, and of the Egyptians who were rulers of the descendants of Ammon, when even the Libyans were allied with her? And so she will be led into captivity, and her little ones, because they will not be able to enter, will be killed in the streets, lying prostrate before their parents' eyes, and all her wealth will perhaps be divided among the victors. And no one of the leaders will escape, for they will be bound with iron and shackles. And so, o Nineveh, you will be intoxicated, and once rich and beautiful, who had so many lovers, you will be despised by all, and while your enemies pursue you, you will seek rest and not find it. All your warriors and all your allies will be plundered by the enemy, and without any effort they will be captured like ripe figs, which when shaken do not fall to the ground, so that at least there is some small labor for those gathering, but they will immediately fall into the mouth of the devourer. Let these words be paraphrased according to the Septuagint interpreters: for we have once proposed to follow the Vulgate edition, so that we do not appear to have given any occasion for reprehending the excetrae and Sardanapalus. Moreover, the example of the overthrow of Nineveh does not seem to me to be sufficiently congruent with the sons of Lot, who are called Ammon. For first, it is said Ammon (Genesis X), not Amman; secondly, Ammana, which is now called Philadelphia, is not situated beside rivers, nor are its riches gathered from the sea, since it is inland, neither does it have Ethiopia and Egypt and Africa and Libya as allies, when all these things, both according to power and according to example, and according to the description of the place and region, and the friendly nations, are more suited to being compared to Alexandria; and never would the most powerful city of Nineveh, compared to the lesser Philadelphia, have heard from the prophet: Are you better? But to whom is it said: Are you not better? It is shown that you are lesser than the one you are compared to, and you should not bear it unworthily if it is captured, since it was overcome by the same enemy who is greater, stronger, and more powerful both in the nature of the place and in brave men. But since we have interpreted Nineveh and this world, it is commanded to him to tune and compose his strings, and to prepare himself for a mournful song: for indeed the part of the sons of Ammon, which was much better than Nineveh and had dwelt over the rivers, because it was found in error, paid the penalties for its own crime. First, according to the history of Alexandria, it must be said that 'Ammon' interprets the people, and the meaning is according to the laws of allegory: Consider the people of the Church who dwell upon the rivers of the prophets, and it has teachers in its vicinity, from whose womb rivers flow, with its beginning being the sea. From the reading of the Law, which is bitter without the wood of Christ, we arrive at the likeness of Myrrh to its mystery, which has Ethiopia in its strength: Ethiopia indeed shall stretch out her hands to God (Ps. 68) : and Egypt into which the Lord came in a light cloud: and the Libyans who formerly dwelt in barrenness, but afterwards became his helpers. And if she does not realize this and guard her heart with all diligence, she will be taken captive and will mourn for her children. Her little ones, who are still in the early stages of their journey and have not reached the middle of the road, will be stumbled in their own beginnings. And the most cruel enemies will hasten to divide among themselves the splendid things of hers, and they will drag into captivity the noble ones whom we can understand as the leaders and governors, bound in chains and hindered by the weight of the heaviest fetters. And so, Nineveh, you, infidel men, who adhere completely to the world, will feel punishment, and you will drink from my cup and fall into the same vice as those who were on my side and fell by their own fault. And you will despise me; you will seek an end between the vices and disturbances that oppress you, and yet you will not be able to find a stop and an end to your evils. And all your desires and pleasures, and worldly powers, and the doctrines that you thought you had so firmly, will be devoured by the one who eats, as Samson says in a parable: 'Out of the eater came forth meat, and out of the strong came forth sweetness' (Judges 14:14). For then, all your strong things and the sweet fruits that promised delights to the eyes of the beholders will fall into the mouth of the devouring devil with the first shaking of the tree, by whom Nineveh had always been tested and possessed. Furthermore, what we have omitted: And there is no end to your flight, because it is said to Nineveh, and among those things which are written about Ammon, it is placed, and it seems extraordinarily inserted in a foreign place, as if we refer to Nineveh by way of excess: And you will be intoxicated, and there is no end to your flight, and you will be despised, and the rest of the things that are said to Nineveh. And we will interpret that there is no end to the flight of Nineveh from God, because it always makes progress in fleeing, and never wants to stop, according to what we said above: And those who flee did not stand, and there was no one to look back. And we will say that Holy Scripture is interwoven with these difficulties, especially the prophets who are full of riddles, so that the difficulty of meaning also involves the difficulty of language: so that the holy things may not easily be revealed to dogs, and pearls to pigs, and sacred things to the profane. And if we wish to interpret Ammon as referring to the sons of Lot, let us say that Lot had two sons from his two daughters, Moab and Ammon, of whom the older, Moab, is interpreted as from the father or paternal water, but the younger, Ammon, may be understood as either the son of my generation or our people (Genesis XIX). And I consider how (or in what manner) he who was born from Judah, because of sin, is said to him: Seed of Canaan, and not Judah (Dan. XIII, 56). And in Ezekiel to Jerusalem, the sinner (or harlot): Your root and your generation are from the land of Canaan, your father is an Amorite (or Canaanite), and your mother is a Hittite (Ezek. XVI, 3): thus those who were from the former people, that is, the Jews; and from the latter, that is, from us, Moabites and Ammonites are figuratively called. And because they had turned away from their father (for the name Lot means 'turning away'), they will be subjected to punishment and will suffer all that we have mentioned above. But if even those who were once holy incur the severity of God, and she who dwelt among the rivers will be purged by the fire of Gehenna, how much more will Nineveh, which had no law before and did not receive the yoke of God's commandments, fall in the end into the devouring mouth because of its pride!
AD 1781Richard ChallonerMedieval
Populous Alexandria: No-Ammon. A populous city of Egypt destroyed by the Chaldeans, and afterwards rebuilt by Alexander, and called Alexandria. Others suppose No-Ammon to be the same as Diospolis.
Source: Quotations drawn from early Church Fathers and historical Christian theologians (AD 100–1500). Some quotes address the surrounding passage context rather than this verse alone.
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