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“Secret Arrival and Public Debate”· John 7:11–13
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King James Version
And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.
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KJV (with Strong's)
And G2532 there was G2258 much G4183 murmuring G1112 among G1722 the people G3793 concerning G4012 him G846: for some G3303 said G3004,G3754 He is G2076 a good man G18: others G1161 G243 said G3004, Nay G3756; but G235 he deceiveth G4105 the people G3793.
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Complete Jewish Bible
And among the crowds there was much whispering about him. Some said, “He’s a good man”; but others said, “No, he is deceiving the masses.”
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Berean Standard Bible
Many in the crowds were whispering about Him. Some said, “He is a good man.” But others replied, “No, He deceives the people.”
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American Standard Version
And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him: some said, He is a good man; others said, Not so, but he leadeth the multitude astray.
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World English Bible Messianic
There was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him. Some said, “He is a good man.” Others said, “Not so, but he leads the multitude astray.”
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Geneva Bible (1599)
And much murmuring was there of him among the people. Some said, He is a good man: other sayd, Nay: but he deceiueth the people.
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Young's Literal Translation
and there was much murmuring about him among the multitudes, some indeed said--`He is good;' and others said, `No, but he leadeth astray the multitude;'
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Summary

John 7:12 captures the intense division and clandestine debate surrounding Jesus' identity during the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem. Amidst a climate of fear regarding the Jewish authorities, the crowds privately whispered and grumbled about Him, with some affirming His moral uprightness as "a good man," while others vehemently accused Him of being a deceptive charlatan who misled the people. This verse vividly illustrates the polarized public opinion concerning Jesus, highlighting the initial responses of both admiration and severe accusation that characterized His ministry.

Context

Literary Context

John 7 opens with Jesus in Galilee, deliberately avoiding Judea because the Jewish leaders sought to kill Him. As the Feast of Tabernacles approaches, His brothers urge Him to go to Judea to display His works publicly, implying a lack of full faith in His divine mission. Jesus initially declines, stating His time has not yet come, but later goes up to the feast secretly John 7:1-10. Upon His arrival, the narrative immediately shifts to the public's reaction. Verse 11 notes that the Jews were "seeking him," indicating a heightened tension. John 7:12 then reveals the immediate consequence of His presence: a widespread, yet hushed, discussion among the throngs of pilgrims, setting the stage for Jesus' public teaching and the escalating conflict with the religious authorities later in the chapter John 7:14-36.

Historical & Cultural Context

The Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) was one of the three major annual pilgrimage festivals, requiring all Jewish males to travel to Jerusalem. It was a joyous, week-long harvest festival commemorating God's provision during the wilderness wanderings and looking forward to the messianic age. Jerusalem would have been overflowing with pilgrims from all over the Jewish world, creating a vibrant, bustling, and often politically charged atmosphere. The "murmuring" mentioned in the text was likely due to the pervasive fear of the Jewish authorities (Sanhedrin), who had already demonstrated hostility towards Jesus and sought to suppress any pro-Jesus sentiment John 7:13. Discussions about a controversial figure like Jesus would naturally occur in hushed tones to avoid drawing unwanted attention or reprisal.

Key Themes

The primary theme in John 7:12 is the division over Jesus' identity, a recurring motif throughout John's Gospel. The contrasting opinions—some seeing Him as "a good man" and others as one who "deceiveth the people"—underscore the polarized responses to Jesus' claims and actions. This highlights the theme of public opinion versus divine truth, where popular perception, often based on incomplete information or personal bias, stands in stark contrast to the true nature and mission of Christ. Furthermore, this verse introduces the nature of belief and unbelief, illustrating how individuals are confronted with Jesus and must make a choice, either accepting Him (even if partially) or rejecting Him based on suspicion and fear, a tension that permeates the entire Gospel narrative and culminates in the ultimate choice of faith or rejection.

Exposition and Analysis

Key Word Analysis

murmuring gongysmós' G1112

This term denotes a low, indistinct sound, a grumbling, whispering, or secret complaint. It suggests that these discussions were not open declarations but rather hushed, clandestine conversations, likely due to the aforementioned fear of the Jewish leaders. The word implies a deep-seated discontent or disagreement that is not openly expressed.

good agathós' G18

This word signifies moral excellence, intrinsic goodness, or benefit. When some people called Jesus "a good man," they were acknowledging His moral integrity, His benevolent actions, and perhaps His compelling teachings, without necessarily comprehending or accepting His divine claims. It represents a positive, yet potentially superficial, assessment of His character.

deceiveth planáō' G4105

This verb means to cause to roam, to go astray, to err, or to seduce. It implies leading someone away from truth or safety, actively misleading them. The accusation that Jesus "deceiveth the people" was a severe charge, implying He was a false prophet or charlatan, deliberately deluding the masses for His own purposes, a charge that could carry severe consequences under Jewish law.

Verse Breakdown

"And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him:"

This opening clause immediately establishes the atmosphere of hushed, widespread discussion and underlying tension. The word "murmuring" (gongysmos) suggests a low, continuous sound of discontent or secret debate, indicating that these conversations were not open declarations but rather whispered exchanges, likely due to fear of the authorities. The sheer "much" (polys) of it emphasizes the pervasive nature of this internal debate within the crowds gathered for the feast.

"for some said, He is a good man:"

This part of the verse reveals the first, more positive, albeit limited, assessment of Jesus. Those who held this view likely recognized His moral purity, His compassionate actions, and perhaps the wisdom of His teachings. However, calling Him merely "a good man" falls short of acknowledging His divine nature or messianic claims, representing an incomplete understanding or a cautious admiration.

"others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people."

This segment presents the stark counter-argument and the deeply negative assessment. The emphatic "Nay" (ou) signifies a strong rejection of the "good man" assertion. The accusation that He "deceiveth the people" (planaō) is a grave charge, implying that Jesus was a false prophet, deliberately misleading the masses and leading them astray from true doctrine or God's path. This accusation reveals deep suspicion, hostility, and a complete rejection of His claims, viewing Him as a dangerous charlatan.

Literary Devices

John 7:12 effectively employs Contrast to highlight the polarized opinions surrounding Jesus. The immediate juxtaposition of "a good man" with "he deceiveth the people" creates a sharp dichotomy, underscoring the profound division among the crowds. This contrast is further amplified by the underlying Irony of the situation: the very person who is "the way, the truth, and the life" John 14:6 is accused of deception. The "much murmuring" itself functions as Foreshadowing, hinting at the escalating conflict and opposition Jesus would face, ultimately leading to His crucifixion. The use of Synecdoche is also present, where "the people" represents a segment of humanity grappling with the truth of Christ, their divided opinions reflecting the broader human response to divine revelation.

Theological and Thematic Connections

John 7:12 profoundly illustrates the inherent human struggle to comprehend and respond to divine truth, particularly when it challenges preconceived notions or established authorities. The division among the people regarding Jesus' identity reflects a fundamental theological tension: whether to accept Him as He truly is—the Son of God and Messiah—or to reject Him based on human reasoning, fear, or misunderstanding. This verse underscores that Jesus' presence inevitably forces a decision, revealing the spiritual state of those confronted by Him. It highlights the reality that even His undeniable goodness and powerful works were not enough to prevent some from accusing Him of the most serious spiritual offense: deception. This theological reality continues to play out in every generation, as individuals must personally grapple with who Jesus is and what His claims mean for their lives.

John 9:16After healing the man born blind, the Pharisees were divided, with some saying Jesus was not from God because He broke the Sabbath, while others questioned how a sinner could perform such signs.
John 10:19Following Jesus' discourse on the Good Shepherd, a division again arose among the Jews because of His words, with some claiming He was demon-possessed and others defending His sanity and works.
Matthew 27:63After Jesus' crucifixion, the chief priests and Pharisees remembered Jesus' claim to rise after three days and accused Him of being a "deceiver" (πλάνος, planos, a related term to planaō), requesting a guard for His tomb to prevent His disciples from stealing His body and fabricating a resurrection.

Reflection and Application

John 7:12 serves as a powerful mirror for contemporary society and individual faith. Just as the crowds in Jerusalem were divided, so too are opinions about Jesus Christ today. Some acknowledge Him as a profound moral teacher, a historical figure of immense influence, or even a good man, much like the initial assessment in the verse. Yet, others, perhaps swayed by secularism, skepticism, or alternative worldviews, dismiss His claims entirely, viewing His followers as deluded or His teachings as misleading. This verse challenges us to move beyond superficial assessments or mere public opinion and to engage deeply with the person of Jesus. It calls for an honest, personal examination of His claims, His life, His teachings, and the overwhelming evidence of His resurrection. Our response to Jesus determines not only our understanding of truth but also our eternal destiny. It prompts us to ask: Is Jesus merely "a good man" to me, or is He the divine Son of God who reveals the very nature of truth?

Questions for Reflection

  1. How do the divided opinions about Jesus in John 7:12 reflect the diverse views of Jesus in our world today?
  2. What are some common reasons people might call Jesus "a good man" without fully embracing His divine identity?
  3. What does it mean to be "deceived" by someone, and why was this such a serious accusation against Jesus?
  4. In what ways might fear of societal or cultural disapproval prevent people from openly acknowledging or discussing their faith in Jesus?
  5. How can we move beyond fragmented public opinion to a deeper, personal understanding and commitment to Jesus Christ?

FAQ

Why were the people "murmuring" instead of openly debating about Jesus?

The "murmuring" (Greek, gongysmós) indicates hushed, private, and often discontented whispering rather than open, public debate. This was primarily due to the prevailing fear of the Jewish authorities, specifically the Sanhedrin, who had already demonstrated hostility towards Jesus and sought to suppress any pro-Jesus sentiment. As John 7:13 explicitly states, "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." Pilgrims in Jerusalem would have been acutely aware of the power and influence of these leaders, and speaking openly in favor of a controversial figure like Jesus could lead to social ostracism, religious condemnation, or even physical harm. Therefore, discussions about Him were relegated to clandestine whispers among trusted circles.

What did it mean to call Jesus "a good man" in this context?

To call Jesus "a good man" (Greek, agathós) in this context was an acknowledgment of His moral integrity, His benevolent actions, and perhaps the compelling nature of His teachings. Many people witnessed His miracles, heard His profound wisdom, and observed His sinless life. This assessment suggests an admiration for His character and deeds. However, it also implies a limited understanding or acceptance of His true identity. While "good" is a positive attribute, it falls short of recognizing Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of God, or the divine Lord. It's a human assessment of His ethical standing, not a theological confession of His unique divine nature, as revealed in passages like John 1:1-14 or John 20:28.

Why was the accusation "he deceiveth the people" so serious?

The accusation that Jesus "deceiveth the people" (Greek, planáō) was an extremely grave charge in Jewish society. It implied that Jesus was a false prophet, deliberately leading people astray from God's truth and commandments. According to Old Testament law, a false prophet was to be put to death Deuteronomy 13:5. This accusation was not merely a difference of opinion; it was a charge that called into question Jesus' legitimacy, His divine authority, and the very source of His power. It suggested He was a charlatan, manipulating the masses for His own nefarious purposes, thereby undermining the religious and social order. This charge foreshadows the ultimate accusation leveled against Him by the religious authorities, leading to His trial and crucifixion, as seen in Matthew 27:63 where they refer to Him as "that deceiver."

Christ-Centered Fulfillment

John 7:12, with its stark division over Jesus' identity, powerfully foreshadows the ongoing human response to Christ throughout history, ultimately finding its fulfillment in the cross and resurrection. The "murmuring" and contrasting opinions—some seeing Him as "a good man," others as a deceiver—highlight humanity's blindness to the true nature of God's incarnate Son. Jesus, the very embodiment of truth and goodness, who declared "I am the way, the truth, and the life" John 14:6, was paradoxically accused of deception. This tension culminates in His crucifixion, where the world's ultimate rejection of truth is displayed, yet simultaneously, God's ultimate act of love and salvation is accomplished. Through His death and resurrection, Jesus proves Himself to be neither merely a good man nor a deceiver, but the divine Son of God, who came "to give his life a ransom for many" Mark 10:45. The fulfillment lies in the New Testament revelation that while many rejected Him, those who believe in His name receive the power to become children of God John 1:12, thereby transcending the limited and divided human opinions to embrace the saving truth of His messianic identity and redemptive work. His resurrection, witnessed by many 1 Corinthians 15:3-8, definitively silences the accusation of deception and validates His claim as Lord and Christ Acts 2:36.

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Matthew Henry

From his Commentary on the Whole Bible. Henry comments on passages, not single verses — this entry covers John 7:1–13. His four-level outline is real structure in the source text, so it is rendered as structure.

1662–1714 · 13 verses
Passage under commentJohn 7:1–13
I. II. Main points1. 2. Sub-points(1.) (2.) Details[1.] [2.] Fine details

We have here, I. The reason given why Christ spent more of his time in Galilee than in Judea (Joh 7:1): because the Jews, the people in Judea and Jerusalem, sought to kill him, for curing the impotent man on the sabbath day, Joh 5:16. They thought to be the death of him, either by a popular tumult or by a legal prosecution, in consideration of which he kept at a distance in another part of the country, very much out of the lines of Jerusalem's communication. It is not said, He durst not, but, He would not, walk in Jewry; it was not through fear and cowardice that he declined it, but in prudence, because his hour was not yet come. Note, 1. Gospel light is justly taken away from those that endeavour to extinguish it. Christ will withdraw from those that drive him from them, will hide his face from those that spit in it, and justly shut up his bowels from those who spurn at them. 2. In times of imminent peril it is not only allowable, but advisable, to withdraw and abscond for our own safety and preservation, and to choose the service of those places which are least perilous, Mat 10:23. Then, and not till then, we are called to expose and lay down our lives, when we cannot save them without sin. 3. If the providence of God casts persons of merit into places of obscurity and little note, it must not be thought strange; it was the lot of our Master himself. He who was fit to have sat in the highest of Moses's seats willingly walked in Galilee among the ordinary sort of people. Observe, He did not sit still in Galilee, nor bury himself alive there, but walked; he went about doing good. When we cannot do what and where we would, we must do what and where we can.

II.The approach of the feast of tabernacles (Joh 7:2), one of the three solemnities which called for the personal attendance of all the males at Jerusalem; see the institution of it, Lev 23:34, etc., and the revival of it after a long disuse, Neh 8:14. It was intended to be both a memorial of the tabernacle state of Israel in the wilderness, and a figure of the tabernacle state of God's spiritual Israel in this world. This feast, which was instituted so many hundred years before, was still religiously observed. Note, Divine institutions are never antiquated, nor go out of date, by length of time: nor must wilderness mercies ever be forgotten. But it is called the Jews' feast, because it was now shortly to be abolished, as a mere Jewish thing, and left to them that served the tabernacle.

III.Christ's discourse with his brethren, some of his kindred, whether by his mother or his supposed father is not certain; but they were such as pretended to have an interest in him, and therefore interposed to advise him in his conduct. And observe,

1.Their ambition and vain-glory in urging him to make a more public appearance than he did: "Depart hence," said they, "and go into Judea (Joh 7:3), where thou wilt make a better figure than thou canst here."

(1.)They give two reasons for this advice: [1.] That it would be an encouragement to those in and about Jerusalem who had a respect for him; for, expecting his temporal kingdom, the royal seat of which they concluded must be at Jerusalem, they would have had the disciples there particularly countenanced, and thought the time he spent among his Galilean disciples wasted and thrown away, and his miracles turning to no account unless those at Jerusalem saw them. Or, "That thy disciples, all of them in general, who will be gathered at Jerusalem to keep the feast, may see thy works, and not, as here, a few at one time and a few at another." [2.] That it would be for the advancement of his name and honour: There is no man that does any thing in secret if he himself seeks to be known openly. They took it for granted that Christ sought to make himself known, and therefore thought it absurd for him to conceal his miracles: "If thou do these things, if thou be so well able to gain the applause of the people and the approbation of the rulers by thy miracles, venture abroad, and show thyself to the world. Supported with these credentials, thou canst not fail of acceptance, and therefore it is high time to set up for an interest, and to think of being great."

(2.)One would not think there was any harm in this advice, and yet the evangelist noted it is an evidence of their infidelity: For neither did his brethren believe in him (Joh 7:5), if they had, they would not have said this. Observe,

[1.]It was an honour to be of the kindred of Christ, but no saving honour; they that hear his word and keep it are the kindred he values. Surely grace runs in no blood in the world, when not in that of Christ's family.

[2.]It was a sign that Christ did not aim at any secular interest, for then his kindred would have struck in with him, and he would have secured them first.

[3.]There were those who were akin to Christ according to the flesh who did believe in him (three of the twelve were his brethren), and yet others, as nearly allied to him as they, did not believe in him. Many that have the same external privileges and advantages do not make the same use of them. But,

(3.)What was there amiss in the advice which they gave him? I answer,

[1.]It was a piece of presumption for them to prescribe to Christ, and to teach him what measures to take; it was a sign that they did not believe him able to guide them, when they did not think him sufficient to guide himself.

[2.]They discovered a great carelessness about his safety, when they would have him go to Judea, where they knew the Jews sought to kill him. Those that believed in him, and loved him, dissuaded him from Judea, Joh 11:8.

[3.]Some think they hoped that if his miracles were wrought at Jerusalem the Pharisees and rulers would try them, and discover some cheat in them, which would justify their unbelief. So. Dr. Whitby.

[4.]Perhaps they were weary of his company in Galilee (for are not all these that speak Galileans?) and this was, in effect, a desire that he would depart out of their coasts.

[5.]They causelessly insinuate that he neglected his disciples, and denied them such a sight of his works as was necessary to the support of their faith.

[6.]They tacitly reproach him as mean-spirited, that he durst not enter the lists with the great men, nor trust himself upon the stage of public action, which, if he had any courage and greatness of soul, he would do, and not sneak thus and skulk in a corner; thus Christ's humility, and his humiliation, and the small figure which his religion has usually made in the world, have been often turned to the reproach of both him and it.

[7.]They seem to question the truth of the miracles he wrought, in saying, "If thou do these things, if they will bear the test of a public scrutiny in the courts above, produce them there." [8.] They think Christ altogether such a one as themselves, as subject as they to worldly policy, and as desirous as they to make a fair show in the flesh; whereas he sought not honour from men. [9.] Self was at the bottom of all; they hoped, if he would make himself as great as he might, they, being his kinsmen, should share in his honour, and have respect paid them for his sake. Note, First, Many carnal people go to public ordinances, to worship at the feast, only to show themselves, and all their care is to make a good appearance, to present themselves handsomely to the world. Secondly, Many that seem to seek Christ's honour do really therein seek their own, and make it serve a turn for themselves.

2.The prudence and humility of our Lord Jesus, which appeared in his answer to the advice his brethren gave him, Joh 7:6-8. Though there were so many base insinuations in it, he answered them mildly. Note, Even that which is said without reason should be answered without passion; we should learn of our Master to reply with meekness even to that which is most impertinent and imperious, and, where it is easy to find much amiss, to seem not to see it, and wink at the affront. They expected Christ's company with them to the feast, perhaps hoping he would bear their charges: but here,

(1.)He shows the difference between himself and them, in two things: - [1.] His time was set, so was not theirs: My time is not yet come, but your time is always ready. Understand it of the time of his going up to the feast. It was an indifferent thing to them when they went, for they had nothing of moment to do either where they were, to detain them there, or where they were going, to hasten them thither; but every minute of Christ's time was precious, and had its own particular business allotted to it. He had some work yet to do in Galilee before he left the country: in the harmony of the gospels betwixt this motion made by his kindred and his going up to this feast comes in the story of his sending forth the seventy disciples (Luk 10:1, etc.), which was an affair of very great consequence; his time is not yet, for that must be done first. Those who live useless lives have their time always ready; they can go and come when they please. But those whose time is filled up with duty will often find themselves straitened, and they have not yet time for that which others can do at any time. Those who are made the servants of God, as all men are, and who have made themselves the servants of all, as all useful men have, must not expect not covet to be masters of their own time. The confinement of business is a thousand times better than the liberty of idleness. or, it may be meant of the time of his appearing publicly at Jerusalem; Christ, who knows all men and all things, knew that the best and most proper time for it would be about the middle of the feast. We, who are ignorant and short-sighted, are apt to prescribe to him, and to think he should deliver his people, and so show himself now. The present time is our time, but he is fittest to judge, and, it may be, his time is not yet come; his people are not yet ready for deliverance, nor his enemies ripe for ruin; let us therefore wait with patience for his time, for all he does will be most glorious in its season. [2.] His life was sought, so was not theirs, Joh 7:7. They, in showing themselves to the world, did not expose themselves: "The world cannot hate you, for you are of the world, its children, its servants, and in with its interests; and no doubt the world will love its own;" see Joh 15:19. Unholy souls, whom the holy God cannot love, the world that lies in wickedness cannot hate; but Christ, in showing himself to the world, laid himself open to the greatest danger; for me it hateth. Christ was not only slighted, as inconsiderable in the world (the world knew him not), but hated, as if he had been hurtful to the world; thus ill was he requited for his love to the world: reigning sin is a rooted antipathy and enmity to Christ. But why did the world hate Christ? What evil had he done to it? Had he, like Alexander, under colour of conquering it, laid it waste? "No, but because" (saith he) "I testify of it, that the works of it are evil." Note, First, The works of an evil world are evil works; as the tree is, so are the fruits: it is a dark world, and an apostate world, and its works are works of darkness and rebellion. Secondly, Our Lord Jesus, both by himself and by his ministers, did and will both discover and testify against the evil works of this wicked world. Thirdly, It is a great uneasiness and provocation to the world to be convicted of the evil of its works. It is for the honour of virtue and piety that those who are impious and vicious do not care for hearing of it, for their own consciences make them ashamed of the turpitude there is in sin and afraid of the punishment that follows after sin. Fourthly, Whatever is pretended, the real cause of the world's enmity to the gospel is the testimony it bears against sin and sinners. Christ's witnesses by their doctrine and conversation torment those that dwell on the earth, and therefore are treated so barbarously, Rev 11:10. But it is better to incur the world's hatred, by testifying against its wickedness, than gain its good-will by going down the stream with it.

(2.)He dismisses them, with a design to stay behind for some time in Galilee (Joh 7:8): Go you up to this feast, I go not up yet.

[1.]He allows their going to the feast, though they were carnal and hypocritical in it. Note, Even those who go not to holy ordinances with right affections and sincere intentions must not be hindered nor discouraged from going; who knows but they may be wrought upon there?

[2.]He denies them his company when they went to the feast, because they were carnal and hypocritical. Those who go to ordinances for ostentation, or to serve some secular purpose, go without Christ, and will speed accordingly. How sad is the condition of that man, though he reckon himself akin to Christ, to whom he saith, "Go up to such an ordinance, Go pray, Go hear the word, Go receive the sacrament, but I go not up with thee? Go thou and appear before God, but I will not appear for thee," as Exo 33:1-3. But, if the presence of Christ go not with us, to what purpose should we go up? Go you up, I go not up. When we are going to, or coming fRom. solemn ordinances, it becomes us to be careful what company we have and choose, and to avoid that which is vain and carnal, lest the coal of good affections be quenched by corrupt communication. I go not up yet to this feast; he does not say, I will not go up at all, but not yet. There may be reasons for deferring a particular duty, which yet must not be wholly omitted or laid aside; see Num 9:6-11. The reason he gives is, My time is not yet fully come. Note, Our Lord Jesus is very exact and punctual in knowing and keeping his time, and, as it was the time fixed, so it was the best time.

3.Christ's continuance in Galilee till his full time was come, Joh 7:9. He, saying these things to them (tauta de eipōn) abode still in Galilee; because of this discourse he continued there; for,

(1.)He would not be influenced by those who advised him to seek honour from men, nor go along with those who put him upon making a figure; he would not seem to countenance the temptation.

(2.)He would not depart from his own purpose. He had said, upon a clear foresight and mature deliberation, that he would not go up yet to this feast, and therefore he abode still in Galilee. It becomes the followers of Christ thus to be steady, and not to use lightness.

4.His going up to the feast when his time was come. Observe,

(1.)When he went: When his brethren were gone up. He would not go up with them, lest they should make a noise and disturbance, under pretence of showing him to the world; whereas it agreed both with the prediction and with his spirit not to strive nor cry, nor let his voice be heard in the streets, Isa 42:2. But he went up after them. We may lawfully join in the same religious worship with those with whom we should yet decline an intimate acquaintance and converse; for the blessing of ordinances depends upon the grace of God, and not upon the grace of our fellow-worshippers. His carnal brethren went up first, and then he went. Note, In the external performances of religion it is possible that formal hypocrites may get the start of those that are sincere. Many come first to the temple who are brought thither by vain-glory, and go thence unjustified, as he, Luk 18:11. It is not, Who comes first? that will be the question, but, Who comes fittest? If we bring our hearts with us, it is no matter who gets before us.

(2.)How he went, ōs en kruptō - as if he were hiding himself: not openly, but as it were in secret, rather for fear of giving offence than of receiving injury. He went up to the feast, because it was an opportunity of honouring God and doing good; but he went up as it were in secret, because he would not provoke the government. Note, Provided the work of God be done effectually, it is best done when done with least noise. The kingdom of God need not come with observation, Luk 17:20. We may do the work of God privately, and yet not do it deceitfully.

5.The great expectation that there was of him among the Jews at Jerusalem, Joh 7:11-14. Having formerly come up to the feasts, and signalized himself by the miracles he wrought, he had made himself the subject of much discourse and observation.

(1.)They could not but think of him (Joh 7:11): The Jews sought him at the feast, and said, Where is he?

[1.]The common people longed to see him there, that they might have their curiosity gratified with the sight of his person and miracles. They did not think it worth while to go to him into Galilee, though if they had they would not have lost their labour, but they hoped the feast would bring him to Jerusalem, and then they should see him. If an opportunity of acquaintance with Christ come to their door, they can like it well enough. They sought him at the feast. When we attend upon God in his holy ordinances, we should seek Christ in them, seek him at the gospel feasts. Those who would see Christ at a feast must seek him there. Or,

[2.]Perhaps it was his enemies that were thus waiting an opportunity to seize him, and, if possible, to put an effectual stop to his progress. They said, Where is he? pou esin ekeinos - where is that fellow? Thus scornfully and contemptibly do they speak of him. When they should have welcomed the feast as an opportunity of serving God, they were glad of it as an opportunity of persecuting Christ. Thus Saul hoped to slay David at the new moon, Sa1 20:27. Those who seek opportunity to sin in solemn assemblies for religious worship profane God's ordinances to the last degree, and defy him upon his own ground; it is like striking within the verge of the court.

(2.)The people differed much in their sentiments concerning him (Joh 7:12): There was much murmuring, or muttering rather, among the people concerning him. The enmity of the rulers against Christ, and their enquiries after him, caused him to be so much the more talked of and observed among the people. This ground the gospel of Christ has got by the opposition made to it, that it has been the more enquired into, and, by being every where spoken against, it has come to be every where spoken of, and by this means has been spread the further, and the merits of his cause have been the more searched into. This murmuring was not against Christ, but concerning him; some murmured at the rulers, because they did not countenance and encourage him: others murmured at them, because they did not silence and restrain him. Some murmured that he had so great an interest in Galilee; others, that he had so little interest in Jerusalem. Note, Christ and his religion have been, and will be, the subject of much controversy and debate, Luk 12:51, Luk 12:52. If all would agree to entertain Christ as they ought, there would be perfect peace; but, when some receive the light and others resolve against it, there will be murmuring. The bones in the valley, while they were dead and dry, lay quiet; but when it was said unto them, Live, there was a noise and a shaking, Eze 37:7. But the noise and rencounter of liberty and business are preferable, surely, to the silence and agreement of a prison. Now what were the sentiments of the people concerning him?

[1.]Some said, he is a good man. This was a truth, but it was far short of being the whole truth. He was not only a good man, but more than a man, he was the Son of God. Many who have no ill thoughts of Christ have yet low thoughts of him, and scarcely honour him, even when they speak well of him, because they do not say enough; yet indeed it was his honour, and the reproach of those who persecuted him, that even those who would not believe him to be the Messiah could not but own he was a good man.

[2.]Others said, Nay, but he deceiveth the people; if this had been true, he had been a very bad man. The doctrine he preached was sound, and could not be contested; his miracles were real, and could not be disproved; his conversation was manifestly holy and good; and yet it must be taken for granted, notwithstanding, that there was some undiscovered cheat at the bottom, because it was the interest of the chief priests to oppose him and run him down. Such murmuring as there was among the Jews concerning Christ there is still among us: the Socinians say, He is a good man, and further they say not; the deists will not allow this, but say, He deceived the people. Thus some depreciate him, others abuse him, but great is the truth.

[3.]They were frightened by their superiors from speaking much of him (Joh 7:13): No man spoke openly of him, for fear of the Jews. Either, First, They durst not openly speak well of him. While any one was at liberty to censure and reproach him, none durst vindicate him. Or, Secondly, They durst not speak at all of him openly. Because nothing could justly be said against him, they would not suffer any thing to be said of him. It was a crime to name him. Thus many have aimed to suppress truth, under colour of silencing disputes about it, and would have all talk of religion hushed, in hopes thereby to bury in oblivion religion itself.

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"And some said, He is a good man; others said, Nay, but He deceiveth the people." Methinks the first of these opinions was that of the many, the other that of the rulers and priests. For to slander Him suited their malice and wickedness. "He deceiveth," say they, "the people." How, tell me? Was it by seeming to work, not really working miracles? But experience witnesses the contrary.
AD 407John Chrysostomas quoted by Aquinas, AD 1274Post-NiceneSourceCatena Aurea by Aquinas
(Hom. xlix. 1) The former, I think, was the opinion of the multitude, the one, viz. who pronounced Him a good man; the latter the opinion of the priests and rulers; as is shown by their saying, He deceiveth the people, not, He deceiveth us.
"And there was much murmuring among the people concerning Him." I think they were exasperated by the place where the miracle had been wrought, and were greatly infuriated and afraid, not so much from anger at what had gone before, as from fear lest He should again work something similar. But all fell out contrary to what they desired, and against their will they rendered Him conspicuous.
AD 430Augustine of Hippoas quoted by Aquinas, AD 1274Post-NiceneSourceCatena Aurea by Aquinas
(Tract. xxviii. s. 11) And there was much murmuring in the people concerning Him. A murmuring arising from disagreement. For some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but He seduceth the people. Whoever had any spark of grace, said, He is a good man; the rest, Nay, hut He seduceth the people. That such was said of Him, Who was God, is a consolation to any Christian, of whom the same may be said. If to seduce be to decide, Christ was not a seducer, nor can any Christian be. But if by seducing be meant bringing a person by persuasion out of one way of thinking into another, then we must enquire from what, and to what. If from good to evil, the seducer is an evil man; if from evil to good, a good one. And would that we were all called, and really were, such seducers.
"They said, therefore, Where is he? And there was much murmuring among the people concerning Him." Whence the murmuring? Of strife. What was the strife? "Some said, He is a good man; but others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people." We must understand this of all His servants: this is said now of them. For whoever becomes eminent in some spiritual grace, of him some will assuredly say, "He is a good man;" others, "Nay; but he deceiveth the people." Whence is this? "Because our life is hid with Christ in God." On this account people may say during the winter, This tree is dead; for example, a fig tree, pear tree, or some kind of fruit tree, it is like a withered tree, and so long as it is winter it does not appear whether it is so or not. But the summer proves, the judgment proves. Our summer is the appearing of Christ: "God shall come manifest, our God, and He will not be silent;" "fire shall go before Him:" that fire "shall burn up His enemies:" that fire shall lay hold of the withered trees. For then shall the dry trees be apparent, when it shall be said to them, "I was hungry, and ye gave me not to eat;" but on the other side, namely, on the right, will be seen abundance of fruit, and magnificence of leaves; the green will be eternity. To those, then, as withered trees, it shall be said, "Go into everlasting fire. For behold," it saith, "the axe is laid to the root of the trees: every tree, therefore, that bringeth not forth good fruit shall be cut down, and cast into the fire." Let them then say of thee, if thou art growing in Christ, let men say of thee, "He deceiveth the people." This is said of Christ Himself; it is said of the whole body of Christ. Think of the body of Christ still in the world, think of it still on the threshing-floor; see how it is blasphemed by the chaff. The chaff and the grain are, indeed, threshed together; but the chaff is consumed, the corn is purged. What was said of the Lord then, avails for consolation, whenever it will be said of any Christian.
Ever hard of attainment and difficult of acquirement is goodness, and the power of tracking the beauty of truth is hard of accomplishment to the many, specially the more unlearned and those who have no acuteness of understanding, who from most foolish swayings of thoughts without understanding turn aside to what seems to them easier, and not enduring to prove the nature of whatever offers itself, will never attain to the true quality of things, albeit Paul says, Be ye approved bankers, and persuades us to prove all things, so as by accurate investigation to arrive at the attainment of what is profitable. Let them hear then, who of their exceeding folly marvel not at Jesus but think that it is fit to condemn Him without enquiry, Taste and see that the LORD is good. For as they who prove choice honey by the taste, and from the merest taste perceive what they are in search of, so they who make even a little trial of the words of the Saviour, will acknowledge that He is good, and will marvel in learning it. The wiser then among the Jews plead Christ's cause, and give right judgment concerning Him, consenting to Him as Good, considering (as is like) this above all, that it would not be possible for one to accomplish the things which God evidently works, unless He were by Nature God, or partaker of God, and therefore Good, to Whom would befit the approval of all, and to be instrengthened with grace from above, even though this were not so in Christ, for Christ is Himself the Lord of powers. But they wade in most absurd imaginations, and go astray far from the truth, who shrink not from calling Him a deceiver, who directs unto the unerring path of righteousness. Let the foolish Jew then hear, Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil, that put darkness for light and light for darkness. For along with approving wickedness, ranks the finding fault with good, and keeping back from evil its most deserved reproof, and casting upon them that are ranged on the side of good the blame which is no wise due unto them. But the charges against them for these their revilings were foretold also, for Woe (He says) unto them, for they swerved from Me, wretched are they because they transgressed against Me: I redeemed them, THEY spake lies against Me.
Source: Quotations drawn from early Church Fathers and historical Christian theologians (AD 100–1500). Some quotes address the surrounding passage context rather than this verse alone.
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