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Hebrews 12:7

“The Discipline of the Lord”· Hebrews 12:5–11Read in context
King James Version
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
KJV (with Strong's)
If G1487 ye endure G5278 chastening G3809, God G2316 dealeth G4374 with you G5213 as G5613 with sons G5207; for G1063 what G5101 son G5207 is he G2076 whom G3739 the father G3962 chasteneth G3811 not G3756?
Complete Jewish Bible
Regard your endurance as discipline; God is dealing with you as sons. For what son goes undisciplined by his father?
Berean Standard Bible
Endure suffering as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?
American Standard Version
It is for chastening that ye endure; God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father chasteneth not?
World English Bible Messianic
It is for discipline that you endure. God deals with you as with children, for what son is there whom his father doesn’t discipline?
Geneva Bible (1599)
If ye endure chastening, God offereth him selfe vnto you as vnto sonnes: for what sonne is it whom the father chasteneth not?
Young's Literal Translation
if chastening ye endure, as to sons God beareth Himself to you, for who is a son whom a father doth not chasten?
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اگر متحّمل تأدیب شوید، خدا با شما مثل با پسران رفتار می‌نماید. زیرا کدام پسر است که پدرش او را تأدیب نکند؟
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Summary

Hebrews 12:7 presents divine discipline not as punitive judgment but as an intrinsic mark of God's loving fatherhood and a testament to the believer's genuine sonship. It asserts that enduring God's corrective training is evidence of His active involvement in our lives, shaping us into spiritual maturity, much like an earthly father lovingly guides his children for their ultimate good.

Context

Literary Context

Hebrews 12:7 is nestled within a powerful exhortation to perseverance, immediately following the celebrated "hall of faith" in Hebrews 11. The author transitions from examples of faith to the call for endurance in the Christian race, urging believers to fix their eyes on Jesus, "the author and perfecter of our faith" (Hebrews 12:2). The specific discussion of divine discipline begins in Hebrews 12:5, quoting Proverbs 3:11-12, and extends through Hebrews 12:11. This section aims to reframe suffering and trials not as signs of God's abandonment, but as purposeful acts of a loving Father designed for spiritual growth and maturity, leading to "the peaceful fruit of righteousness" (Hebrews 12:11).

Historical & Cultural Context

The original audience of the Epistle to the Hebrews was likely a community of Jewish Christians in the first century, possibly in Rome, facing significant persecution, social ostracization, and perhaps even the temptation to revert to Judaism to escape hardship. In this context, suffering could easily be misinterpreted as divine displeasure or a sign of being forsaken by God. The concept of a father's discipline was well-understood in both Jewish and Greco-Roman cultures, where parental correction was seen as essential for a child's proper upbringing and integration into society. The author leverages this familiar cultural paradigm to explain God's seemingly harsh dealings, reassuring them that their trials were not arbitrary but were evidence of their legitimate status as God's children, being prepared for their eternal inheritance.

Key Themes

The overarching theme in this section of Hebrews is perseverance in faith amidst trials, with a strong emphasis on divine discipline as an expression of God's fatherly love. It challenges the common misconception that suffering indicates God's wrath, instead presenting it as a refining process that confirms one's sonship and leads to holiness and spiritual maturity. This aligns with the broader book's theme of the superiority of Christ and the New Covenant, which offers a better hope and a more profound relationship with God than the Old Covenant. The author continually points to Jesus as the ultimate example of endurance, having "endured the cross, despising the shame" (Hebrews 12:2), providing a model for believers to follow in their own "race" (Hebrews 12:1).

Exposition and Analysis

Key Word Analysis

Chastening paideía' G3809

This term is far richer than mere punishment. It denotes the entire process of child-rearing, encompassing education, instruction, training, and disciplinary correction. It is a comprehensive system designed to cultivate moral character, maturity, and spiritual development. In the context of divine discipline, it signifies God's loving and purposeful training program for His children, aimed at their ultimate good and conformity to His character.

Endure hypoménō' G5278

Meaning "to stay under," "to remain," or "to undergo," this word conveys the idea of patient endurance, fortitude, and perseverance in the face of trials. It implies not merely passive suffering, but an active, steadfast bearing up under pressure, demonstrating resilience and commitment to faith despite difficulties.

Chasteneth paideúō' G3811

The verb form of paideía, meaning "to train up a child," "to educate," or "to discipline (by punishment)." It highlights the active role of the father (God) in this process of instruction and correction, which is always for the child's benefit and growth, not for arbitrary infliction of pain.

Verse Breakdown

"If ye endure chastening"

This conditional clause sets the premise, suggesting that enduring God's corrective training is a necessary and expected part of the believer's experience. It implies a call to steadfastness and perseverance through difficulties, recognizing them as divinely appointed for our growth.

"God dealeth with you as with sons"

This is the core assertion, revealing the nature of God's relationship with believers. When we experience "chastening," it is precisely then that God is treating us as His legitimate children, actively involved in our upbringing and formation. This refutes any notion that suffering indicates abandonment or disfavor. The KJV's "dealeth with" translates the Greek prosphérō (G4374), which means "to bear towards" or "to treat," emphasizing God's active, intentional engagement.

"for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?"

This rhetorical question serves as a powerful justification and reinforcement of the preceding statement. It appeals to a universally understood principle of good parenting: a loving and responsible father disciplines his children for their good. The implication is that a father who does not chasten his son is neglecting his duty, and such a son would be illegitimate or unloved. Thus, God's discipline is proof of His genuine fatherhood and our true sonship.

Literary Devices

The author employs several literary devices to convey his message effectively. Rhetorical Question is prominently used in the latter part of the verse ("for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?"), which serves to engage the reader directly and elicit an obvious, affirmative answer that reinforces the author's point about the universality and necessity of paternal discipline. This question acts as a Proof by Analogy, drawing a parallel between earthly father-son relationships and the divine Father-child relationship. The comparison helps the audience understand a complex theological truth through a familiar human experience. Furthermore, the verse contains a strong element of Didacticism, as it explicitly teaches and instructs the audience on the proper perspective regarding suffering and God's interaction with them. The repeated use of terms like "chastening" (paideía) and "chasteneth" (paideúō) creates a Thematic Repetition, emphasizing the central concept and ensuring its profound significance is grasped.

Theological and Thematic Connections

Hebrews 12:7 profoundly shapes our understanding of God's character and His relationship with His children. It reframes suffering and trials not as arbitrary misfortunes or signs of divine displeasure, but as purposeful expressions of God's unwavering love and commitment to our spiritual formation. This perspective elevates God's discipline from mere punishment to a vital aspect of His fatherly care, designed to refine our character, deepen our faith, and ultimately conform us to the image of Christ. It assures believers that their struggles are not evidence of abandonment but rather confirmation of their legitimate sonship, as a loving Father always invests in the growth and well-being of His true children.

Proverbs 3:11-12"My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction: For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth."
Revelation 3:19"As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."
Job 5:17"Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty."

Reflection and Application

Hebrews 12:7 offers profound comfort and a transformative perspective for believers navigating the trials of life. It challenges us to reframe our understanding of difficulties, not as random misfortunes or signs of God's anger, but as purposeful, loving interventions from our Heavenly Father. When we endure hardship, this verse assures us that God is actively engaged in our lives, treating us as His beloved children whom He is training for righteousness. This truth empowers us to embrace challenges with a different mindset, seeing them as opportunities for growth, refinement, and a deeper reliance on Him. It encourages perseverance, knowing that every trial, when endured with faith, contributes to our spiritual maturity and strengthens our relationship with the One who loves us perfectly.

Questions for Reflection

  1. How does understanding God's "chastening" as loving discipline, rather than punishment, change your perspective on current or past difficulties?
  2. In what specific areas of your life might God be "chastening" you for your spiritual growth, and how can you better "endure" this process?
  3. What practical steps can you take to cooperate with God's loving discipline, allowing it to produce "the peaceful fruit of righteousness" in your life?

FAQ

Does "chastening" in this verse refer to punishment for sin?

While God's discipline can certainly involve consequences for sin, the Greek word paideía (chastening) in Hebrews 12:7 is broader than mere punishment. It encompasses the entire process of child-rearing, including instruction, training, correction, and discipline, all aimed at moral and spiritual development. It's about nurturing and educating a child to maturity, not simply punishing wrongdoing. The context of Hebrews 12:5-11 emphasizes that this discipline is a mark of God's love and a means to share in His holiness, much like a good earthly father disciplines his children for their benefit, not out of malice or just for retribution.

How can I know if my suffering is God's chastening or just a natural consequence of living in a fallen world?

Discerning the source of suffering can be complex, as trials can arise from various factors, including the general brokenness of the world (Romans 8:22), our own poor choices (Galatians 6:7), or direct spiritual attack (Ephesians 6:12). However, when suffering leads to introspection, repentance, and a deeper reliance on God, and when it prompts us to grow in character and holiness, it often bears the hallmarks of divine discipline. The key is to examine the fruit: does it draw you closer to God and make you more like Christ, or does it lead to bitterness and despair? If you are a child of God, you can trust that even in seemingly random hardships, God is sovereignly at work, using all things for your good and His glory (Romans 8:28).

Christ-Centered Fulfillment

Hebrews 12:7 finds its ultimate fulfillment and perfect illustration in the person of Jesus Christ. Although He was without sin, Jesus perfectly embodied the concept of enduring discipline and suffering, not for His own correction, but as the obedient Son who learned obedience through what He suffered (Hebrews 5:8). His willingness to "endure the cross, despising the shame" (Hebrews 12:2) provides the supreme example of patient endurance under the Father's sovereign will. Through His suffering, death, and resurrection, Christ secured our adoption as sons and daughters, making it possible for us to enter into the very sonship described in this verse. Because He endured the ultimate "chastening" on our behalf, taking the full weight of sin, believers now experience God's discipline not as condemnation, but as the loving training of a Father who is perfecting His children for an eternal inheritance (Romans 8:17). Our ability to "endure chastening" is a direct result of our union with Christ, who empowers us by His Spirit to participate in the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4) and be conformed to His image (Romans 8:29).

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Matthew Henry

From his Commentary on the Whole Bible. Henry comments on passages, not single verses — this entry covers Hebrews 12:4–17. His four-level outline is real structure in the source text, so it is rendered as structure.

1662–1714 · 14 verses
Passage under commentHebrews 12:4–17
I. II. Main points1. 2. Sub-points(1.) (2.) Details[1.] [2.] Fine details

Here the apostle presses the exhortation to patience and perseverance by an argument taken from the gentle measure and gracious nature of those sufferings which the believing Hebrews endured in their Christian course.

I.From the gentle and moderate degree and measure of their sufferings: You have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin, Heb 12:4. Observe,

1.He owns that they had suffered much, they had been striving to an agony against sin. Here,

(1.)The cause of the conflict was sin, and to be engaged against sin is to fight in a good cause, for sin is the worst enemy both to God and man. Our spiritual warfare is both honourable and necessary; for we are only defending ourselves against that which would destroy us, if it should get the victory over us; we fight for ourselves, for our lives, and therefore ought to be patient and resolute.

(2.)Every Christian is enlisted under Christ's banner, to strive against sin, against sinful doctrines, sinful practices, and sinful habits and customs, both in himself and in others.

2.He puts them in mind that they might have suffered more, that they had not suffered as much as others; for they had not yet resisted unto blood, they had not been called to martyrdom as yet, though they knew not how soon they might be. Learn here,

(1.)Our Lord Jesus, the captain of our salvation, does not call his people out to the hardest trials at first, but wisely trains them up by less sufferings to be prepared for greater. He will not put new wine into weak vessels, he is the gentle shepherd, who will not overdrive the young ones of the flock.

(2.)It becomes Christians to take notice of the gentleness of Christ in accommodating their trial to their strength. They should not magnify their afflictions, but should take notice of the mercy that is mixed with them, and should pity those who are called to the fiery trials to resist to blood; not to shed the blood of their enemies, but to seal their testimony with their own blood.

(3.)Christians should be ashamed to faint under less trials, when they see others bear up under greater, and do not know how soon they may meet with greater themselves. If we have run with the footmen and they have wearied us, how shall we contend with horses? If we be wearied in a land of peace, what shall we do in the swellings of Jordan? Jer 12:5.

II.He argues from the peculiar and gracious nature of those sufferings that befall the people of God.

Though their enemies and persecutors may be the instruments of inflicting such sufferings on them, yet they are divine chastisements; their heavenly Father has his hand in all, and his wise end to serve by all; of this he has given them due notice, and they should not forget it, Heb 12:5. Observe,

1.Those afflictions which may be truly persecution as far as men are concerned in them are fatherly rebukes and chastisements as far as God is concerned in them. Persecution for religion is sometimes a correction and rebuke for the sins of professors of religion. Men persecute them because they are religious; God chastises them because they are not more so: men persecute them because they will not give up their profession; God chastises them because they have not lived up to their profession.

2.God has directed his people how they ought to behave themselves under all their afflictions; they must avoid the extremes that many run into.

(1.)They must not despise the chastening of the Lord; they must not make light of afflictions, and be stupid and insensible under them, for they are the hand and rod of God, and his rebukes for sin. Those who make light of affliction make light of God and make light of sin.

(2.)They must not faint when they are rebuked; they must not despond and sink under their trial, nor fret and repine, but bear up with faith and patience.

(3.)If they run into either of these extremes, it is a sign they have forgotten their heavenly Father's advice and exhortation, which he has given them in true and tender affection.

3.Afflictions, rightly endured, though they may be the fruits of God's displeasure, are yet proofs of his paternal love to his people and care for them (Heb 12:6, Heb 12:7): Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. Observe,

(1.)The best of God's children need chastisement. They have their faults and follies, which need to be corrected.

(2.)Though God may let others alone in their sins, he will correct sin in his own children; they are of his family, and shall not escape his rebukes when they want them.

(3.)In this he acts as becomes a father, and treats them like children; no wise and good father will wink at faults in his own children as he would in others; his relation and his affections oblige him to take more notice of the faults of his own children than those of others.

(4.)To be suffered to go on in sin without a rebuke is a sad sign of alienation from God; such are bastards, not sons. They may call him Father, because born in the pale of the church; but they are the spurious offspring of another father, not of God, Heb 12:7, Heb 12:8.

4.Those that are impatient under the discipline of their heavenly Father behave worse towards him than they would do towards earthly parents, Heb 12:9, Heb 12:10. Here,

(1.)The apostle commends a dutiful and submissive behaviour in children towards their earthly parents We gave them reverence, even when they corrected us. It is the duty of children to give the reverence of obedience to the just commands of their parents, and the reverence of submission to their correction when they have been disobedient. Parents have not only authority, but a charge from God, to give their children correction when it is due, and he has commanded children to take such correction well: to be stubborn and discontented under due correction is a double fault; for the correction supposes there has been a fault already committed against the parent's commanding power, and superadds a further fault against his chastening power. Hence,

(2.)He recommends humble and submissive behavior towards our heavenly Father, when under his correction; and this he does by an argument from the less to the greater.

[1.]Our earthly fathers are but the fathers of our flesh, but God is the Father of our spirits. Our fathers on earth were instrumental in the production of our bodies, which are but flesh, a mean, mortal, vile thing, formed out of the dust of the earth, as the bodies of the beasts are; and yet as they are curiously wrought, and made parts of our persons, a proper tabernacle for the soul to dwell in and an organ for it to act by, we owe reverence and affection to those who were instrumental in their procreation; but then we must own much more to him who is the Father of our spirits. Our souls are not of a material substance, not of the most refined sort; they are not ex traduce - by traduction; to affirm it is bad philosophy, and worse divinity: they are the immediate offspring of God, who, after he had formed the body of man out of the earth, breathed into him a vital spirit, and so he became a living soul.

[2.]Our earthly parents chastened us for their own pleasure. Sometimes they did it to gratify their passion rather than to reform our manners. This is a weakness the fathers of our flesh are subject to, and this they should carefully watch against; for hereby they dishonour that parental authority which God has put upon them and very much hinder the efficacy of their chastisements. But the Father of our spirits never grieves willingly, nor afflicts the children of men, much less his own children. It is always for our profit; and the advantage he intends us thereby is no less than our being partakers of his holiness; it is to correct and cure those sinful disorders which make us unlike to God, and to improve and to increase those graces which are the image of God in us, that we may be and act more like our heavenly Father. God loves his children so that he would have them to be as like himself as can be, and for this end he chastises them when they need it.

[3.]The fathers of our flesh corrected us for a few days, in our state of childhood, when minors; and, though we were in that weak and peevish state, we owed them reverence, and when we came to maturity we loved and honoured them the more for it. Our whole life here is a state of childhood, minority, and imperfection, and therefore we must submit to the discipline of such a state; when we come to a state of perfection we shall be fully reconciled to all the measures of God's discipline over us now.

[4.]God's correction is no condemnation. His children may at first fear lest affliction should come upon that dreadful errand, and we cry, Do not condemn me, but show me wherefore thou contendest with me, Job 10:2. But this is so far from being the design of God to his own people that he therefore chastens them now that they may not be condemned with the world, Co1 11:32. He does it to prevent the death and destruction of their souls, that they may live to God, and be like God, and for ever with him.

5.The children of God, under their afflictions, ought not to judge of his dealings with them by present sense, but by reason, and faith, and experience: No chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous; nevertheless afterwards it yieldeth the peaceable fruits of righteousness, Heb 12:11. Here observe,

(1.)The judgment of sense in this case - Afflictions are not grateful to the sense, but grievous; the flesh will feel them, and be grieved by them, and groan under them.

(2.)The judgment of faith, which corrects that of sense, and declares that a sanctified affliction produces the fruits of righteousness; these fruits are peaceable, and tend to the quieting and comforting of the soul. Affliction produces peace, by producing more righteousness; for the fruit of righteousness is peace. And if the pain of the body contribute thus to the peace of the mind, and short present affliction produce blessed fruits of a long continuance, they have no reason to fret or faint under it; but their great concern is that the chastening they are under may be endured by them with patience, and improved to a greater degree of holiness.

[1.]That their affliction may be endured with patience, which is the main drift of the apostle's discourse on this subject; and he again returns to exhort them that for the reason before mentioned they should lift up the hands that hang down and the feeble knees, Heb 12:12. A burden of affliction is apt to make the Christian's hands hang down, and his knees grow feeble, to dispirit him and discourage him; but this he must strive against, and that for two reasons: - First, That he may the better run his spiritual race and course. Faith, and patience, and holy courage and resolution, will make him walk more steadily, keep a straighter path, prevent wavering and wandering. Secondly, That he may encourage and not dispirit others that are in the same way with him. There are many that are in the way to heaven who yet walk but weakly and lamely in it. Such are apt to discourage one another, and hinder one another; but it is their duty to take courage, and act by faith, and so help one another forward in the way to heaven.

[2.]That their affliction may be improved to a greater degree of holiness. Since this is God's design, it ought to be the design and concern of his children, that with renewed strength and patience they may follow peace with all men, and holiness, Heb 12:14. If the children of God grow impatient under affliction, they will neither walk so quietly and peaceably towards men, nor so piously towards God, as they should do; but faith and patience will enable them to follow peace and holiness too, as a man follows his calling, constantly, diligently, and with pleasure. Observe, First, It is the duty of Christians, even when in a suffering state, to follow peace with all men, yea, even with those who may be instrumental in their sufferings. This is a hard lesson, and a high attainment, but it is what Christ has called his people to. Sufferings are apt to sour the spirit and sharpen the passions; but the children of God must follow peace with all men. Secondly, Peace and holiness are connected together; there can be no true peace without holiness. There may be prudence and discreet forbearance, and a show of friendship and good-will to all; but this true Christian peaceableness is never found separate from holiness. We must not, under pretence of living peaceably with all men, leave the ways of holiness, but cultivate peace in a way of holiness. Thirdly, Without holiness no man shall see the Lord. The vision of God our Saviour in heaven is reserved as the reward of holiness, and the stress of our salvation is laid upon our holiness, though a placid peaceable disposition contributes much to our meetness for heaven.

6.Where afflictions and sufferings for the sake of Christ are not considered by men as the chastisement of their heavenly Father, and improved as such, they will be a dangerous snare and temptation to apostasy, which every Christian should most carefully watch against (Heb 12:15, Heb 12:16): Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God, etc.

(1.)Here the apostle enters a serious caveat against apostasy, and backs it with an awful example.

[1.]He enters a serious caveat against apostasy, Heb 12:15. Here you may observe, First, The nature of apostasy: it is failing of the grace of God; it is to become bankrupts in religion, for want of a good foundation, and suitable care and diligence; it is failing of the grace of God, coming short of a principle of true grace in the soul, notwithstanding the means of grace and a profession of religion, and so coming short of the love and favour of God here and hereafter. Secondly, The consequences of apostasy: where persons fail of having the true grace of God, a root of bitterness will spring up, corruption will prevail and break forth. A root of bitterness, a bitter root, producing bitter fruits to themselves and others. It produces to themselves corrupt principles, which lead to apostasy and are greatly strengthened and radicated by apostasy - damnable errors (to the corrupting of the doctrine and worship of the Christian church) and corrupt practices. Apostates generally grow worse and worse, and fall into the grossest wickedness, which usually ends either in downright atheism or in despair. It also produces bitter fruits to others, to the churches to which these men belonged; by their corrupt principles and practices many are troubled, the peace of the church is broken, the peace of men's minds is disturbed, and many are defiled, tainted with those bad principles, and drawn into defiling practices; so that the churches suffer both in their purity and peace. But the apostates themselves will be the greatest sufferers at last.

[2.]The apostle backs the caution with an awful example, and that is, that of Esau, who though born within the pale of the church, and having the birthright as the eldest son, and so entitled to the privilege of being prophet, priest, and king, in his family, was so profane as to despise these sacred privileges, and to sell his birthright for a morsel of meat. Where observe, First, Esau's sin. He profanely despised and sold the birthright, and all the advantages attending it. So do apostates, who to avoid persecution, and enjoy sensual ease and pleasure, though they bore the character of the children of God, and had a visible right to the blessing and inheritance, give up all pretensions thereto. Secondly, Esau's punishment, which was suitable to his sin. His conscience was convinced of his sin and folly, when it was too late: He would afterwards have inherited the blessing, etc. His punishment lay in two things: 1. He was condemned by his own conscience; he now saw that the blessing he had made so light of was worth the having, worth the seeking, though with much carefulness and many tears. 2. He was rejected of God: He found no place of repentance in God or in his father; the blessing was given to another, even to him to whom he sold it for a mess of pottage. Esau, in his great wickedness, had made the bargain, and God in his righteous judgment, ratified and confirmed it, and would not suffer Isaac to reverse it.

(2.)We may hence learn,

[1.]That apostasy from Christ is the fruit of preferring the gratification of the flesh to the blessing of God and the heavenly inheritance.

[2.]Sinners will not always have such mean thoughts of the divine blessing and inheritance as now they have. The time is coming when they will think no pains too great, no cares no tears too much, to obtain the lost blessing.

[3.]When the day of grace is over (as sometimes it may be in this life), they will find no place for repentance: they cannot repent aright of their sin; and God will not repent of the sentence he has passed upon them for their sin. And therefore, as the design of all, Christians should never give up their title, and hope of their Father's blessing and inheritance, and expose themselves to his irrevocable wrath and curse, by deserting their holy religion, to avoid suffering, which, though this may be persecution as far as wicked men are concerned in it, is only a rod of correction and chastisement in the hand of their heavenly Father, to bring them near to himself in conformity and communion. This is the force of the apostle's arguing from the nature of the sufferings of the people of God even when they suffer for righteousness' sake; and the reasoning is very strong.

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4 surviving comments on this verse. Each one is dated, so this reads as a timeline rather than a list.

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"Ye endure chastisement" (he says); not for punishment, nor for vengeance, nor for suffering. See, from that from which they supposed they had been deserted of God, from these he says they may be confident, that they have not been deserted. It is as if he had said, Because ye have suffered so many evils, do you suppose that God has left you and hates you? If ye did not suffer, then it were right to suppose this. For if "He scourgeth every son whom He receiveth," he who is not scourged, perhaps is not a son. What then, you say, do not bad men suffer distress? They suffer indeed; how then? He did not say, Every one who is scourged is a son, but every son is scourged. For in all cases He scourges His son: what is wanted then is to show, whether any son is not scourged. But thou wouldest not be able to say: there are many wicked men also who are scourged, such as murderers, robbers, sorcerers, plunderers of tombs. These however are paying the penalty of their own wickedness, and are not scourged as sons, but punished as wicked: but ye as sons.
AD 430Augustine of HippoPost-NiceneSourceON THE TRINITY 14.1.1
Here discipline is spoken of in reference to those evils that anyone suffers for his sins in order that he may be corrected.
AD 458Theodoret of CyrusPost-NiceneSourceINTERPRETATION OF HEBREWS 12
Fathers are in the habit of disciplining their true children, and if they see them caned by the teachers, they do not worry; they see the fruit coming from the discipline. But they despise illegitimate children and do not accord them equal attention. So if you also avoid discipline, you are of the number of the illegitimate.
"and you have forgotten that word of encouragement."Therefore, he said, he is so saddened and disappointed in spirit that he has even forgotten the words that contribute to courage. This, however, signifies that they are very slow in their actions: for those who are like this forget even the things that are in their hands.
"addresses you as sons." For Solomon was not speaking to his own children, but was bringing forth common teaching: therefore he says "as."
"when he rebukes you." It is the greatest encouragement and comfort to know that afflictions come to us by God's promise for our benefit, since afflictions lead us to divine wisdom [φιλοσοφεῖν]: and if they come by God's permission, they seem to be sent and imposed by Him.
"because the Lord disciplines those he loves." Indeed, no one can show anyone to be righteous without affliction: for "narrow and hard is the way that leads to life." (Matt. 7:14) Therefore, as far as correction is concerned, God calls you, not to punishment. Therefore, in the very fact that they thought they were forsaken by God, namely because of afflictions, He persuades them that they are cared for by God; rather, in the opposite way: You would be forsaken, He says, if you acted without afflictions.
"he accepts as his son." He who takes to himself, who accepts as his son. "Just as the Son offers himself to you, God." (Matt. 20:28) Therefore, since it is a sign of sons to be corrected, endure, he says, affliction. But the righteous are the sons of God.
"If you are not disciplined."Where he had sought from the things themselves, namely with all the saints brought forth who had fought through afflictions, now he strives to persuade even from human reasoning.
"then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all." If, therefore, the sign of illegitimate children is not to be punished, but legitimate children are punished, it is necessary, he says, to rejoice in punishment.
"and we respected them for it." We heard, he says, and we respected them.
"Father of spirits." Whether of spiritual gifts or of souls or spiritual virtues.
"and live." For this is life, to be subject to God.
Source: Quotations drawn from early Church Fathers and historical Christian theologians (AD 100–1500). Some quotes address the surrounding passage context rather than this verse alone.
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