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Commentary on Job 8 verses 8–19
Bildad here discourses very well on the sad catastrophe of hypocrites and evil-doers and the fatal period of all their hopes and joys. He will not be so bold as to say with Eliphaz that none that were righteous were ever cut off thus (Job 4:7); yet he takes it for granted that God, in the course of his providence, does ordinarily bring wicked men, who seemed pious and were prosperous, to shame and ruin in this world, and that, by making their prosperity short, he discovers their piety to be counterfeit. Whether this will certainly prove that all who are thus ruined must be concluded to have been hypocrites he will not say, but rather suspect, and thinks the application is easy.
I. He proves this truth, of the certain destruction of all the hopes and joys of hypocrites, by an appeal to antiquity and the concurring sentiment and observation of all wise and good men; and an undoubted truth it is, if we take in the other world, that, if not in this life, yet in the life to come, hypocrites will be deprived of all their trusts and all their triumphs: whether Bildad so meant or no, we must so take it. Let us observe the method of his proof, Job 8:8-10.
1.He insists not on his own judgment and that of his companions: We are but of yesterday, and know nothing, Job 8:9. He perceived that Job had no opinion of their abilities, but thought they knew little. "We will own," says Bildad, "that we know nothing, are as ready to confess our ignorance as thou art to condemn it; for we are but of yesterday in comparison, and our days upon earth are short and transient, and hastening away as a shadow. And hence," (1.) "We are not so near the fountain-head of divine revelation" (which then for aught that appears, was conveyed by tradition) "as the former age was; and therefore we must enquire what they said and recount what we have been told of their sentiments." Blessed be God, now that we have the word of God in writing, and are directed to search that, we need not enquire of the former age, nor prepare ourselves to the search of their fathers; for, though we ourselves are but of yesterday, the word of God in the scripture is as nigh to us as it was to them (Rom 10:8), and it is the more sure word of prophecy, to which we must take heed. If we study and keep God's precepts, we may by them understand more than the ancients, Psa 119:99,Psa 119:100. (2.) "We do not live so long as those of the former age did, to make observations upon the methods of divine providence, and therefore cannot be such competent judges as they in a cause of this nature." Note, The shortness of our lives is a great hindrance to the improvement of our knowledge, and so are the frailty and weakness of our bodies. Vita brevis, ars longa - life is short, the progress of art boundless.
2.He refers to the testimony of the ancients and to the knowledge which Job himself had of their sentiments. "Do thou enquire of the former age, and let them tell thee, not only their own judgment in this matter, but the judgment also of their fathers, Job 8:8. They will teach thee, and inform thee (Job 8:10), that all along, in their time, the judgments of God followed wicked men. This they will utter out of their hearts, that is, as that which they firmly believe themselves, which they are greatly affected with and desirous to acquaint and affect others with." Note, (1.) For the right understanding of divine Providence, and the unfolding of the difficulties of it, it will be of use to compare the observations and experiences of former ages with the events of our own day; and, in order thereto, to consult history, especially the sacred history, which is the most ancient, infallibly true, and written designedly for our learning. (2.) Those that would fetch knowledge from the former ages must search diligently, prepare for the search, and take pains for the search. (3.) Those words are most likely to reach to the hearts of the learners that come from the hearts of the teachers. Those shall teach thee best that utter words out of their heart, that speak by experience, and not by rote, of spiritual and divine things. The learned bishop Patrick suggests that Bildad being a Shuhite, descended from Shuah one of Abraham's sons by Keturah (Gen 25:2), in this appeal which he makes to history he has a particular respect to the rewards which the blessing of God secured to the posterity of faithful Abraham (who hitherto, and long after, continued in his religion) and to the extirpation of those eastern people, neighbours to Job (in whose country they were settled), for their wickedness, whence he infers that it is God's usual way to prosper the just and root out the wicked, though for a while they may flourish.
II. He illustrates this truth by some similitudes.
1.The hopes and joys of the hypocrite are here compared to a rush or flag, v. 11-13. (1.) It grows up out of the mire and water. The hypocrite cannot gain his hope without some false rotten ground or other out of which to raise it, and with which to support it and keep it alive, any more than the rush can grow without mire. He grounds it on his worldly prosperity, the plausible profession he makes of religion, the good opinion of his neighbours, and his own good conceit of himself, which are no solid foundation on which to build his confidence. It is all but mire and water; and the hope that grows out of it is but rush and flag. (2.) It may look green and gay for a while (the rush outgrows the grass), but it is light and hollow, and empty, and good for nothing. It is green for show, but of no use. (3.) It withers presently, before any other herb, v. 12. Even while it is in its greenness it is dried away and gone in a little time. Note, The best state of hypocrites and evil-doers borders upon withering; even when it is green it is going. The grass is cut down and withers (Psa 90:6); but the rush is not cut down and yet withers, withers before it grows up (Psa 129:6): as it has no use, so it has no continuance. So are the paths of all that forget God (v. 13); they take the same way that the rush does, for the hypocrite's hope shall perish. Note, [1.] Forgetfulness of God is at the bottom of men's hypocrisy, and of the vain hopes with which they flatter and deceive themselves in their hypocrisy. Men would not be hypocrites if they did not forget that the God with whom they have to do searches the heart and requires truth there, that he is a Spirit and has his eye on our spirits; and hypocrites would have no hope if they did not forget that God is righteous, and will not be mocked with the torn and the lame. [2.] The hope of hypocrites is a great cheat upon themselves, and, though it may flourish for a while, it will certainly perish at last, and they with it.
2.They are here compared to a spider's web, or a spider's house (as it is in the margin), a cobweb, Job 8:14, Job 8:15. The hope of the hypocrite, (1.) Is woven out of his own bowels; it is the creature of his own fancy, and arises merely from a conceit of his own merit and sufficiency. There is a great deal of difference between the work of the bee and that of the spider. A diligent Christian, like the laborious bee, fetches in all his comfort from the heavenly dews of God's word; but the hypocrite, like the subtle spider, weaves his out of a false hypothesis of his own concerning God, as if he were altogether such a one as himself. (2.) He is very fond of it, as the spider of her web; pleases himself with it, wraps himself in it, calls it his house, leans upon it, and holds it fast. It is said of the spider that she takes hold with her hands, and is in kings' palaces, Pro 30:28. So does a carnal worldling hug himself in the fulness and firmness of his outward prosperity; he prides himself in that house as his palace, fortifies himself in it as his castle, and makes use of it as the spider of her web, to ensnare those he has a mind to prey upon. So does a formal professor; he flatters himself in his own eyes, doubts not of his salvation, is secure of heaven, and cheats the world with his vain confidences. (3.) It will easily and certainly be swept away, as the cobweb with the besom, when God shall come to purge his house. The prosperity of worldly people will fail them when they expect to find safety and happiness in it. They seek to hold fast their estates, but God is plucking them out of their hands; and whose shall all those things be, which they have provided? or what the better they will be for them? The confidences of hypocrites will fail them. I tell you, I know you not. The house built on the sand will fall in the storm, when the builder most needs it and promised himself the benefit of it. When a wicked man dies his expectation perishes. The ground of his hopes will prove false; he will be disappointed of the thing he hoped for, and his foolish hope with which he buoyed himself up will be turned into endless despair; and thus his hope will be cut off, his web, that refuge of lies, swept away, and he crushed in it.
3.The hypocrite is here compared to a flourishing and well-rooted tree, which, though it do not wither of itself, yet will easily be cut down and its place no it no more. The secure and prosperous sinner may think himself wronged when he is compared to a rush and a flag; he thinks he has a better root. "We will allow him his conceit," says Bildad, "and give him all the advantage he can desire, and bring him in suddenly cut off." He is here represented as Nebuchadnezzar was in his own dream (Dan 4:10) by a great tree. (1.) See this tree fair and flourishing (Job 8:16) like a green bay-tree (Psa 37:35), green before the sun, it keeps its greenness in defiance of the scorching sun-beams, and his branch shoots forth under the protection of his garden-wall and with the benefit of his garden-soil. See it fixed, and taking deep root, never likely to be overthrown by stormy winds, for his roots are interwoven with the stones (Job 8:17); it grows in firm ground, not, as the rush, of mire and water. Thus does a wicked man, when he prospers in the world, think himself secure; his wealth is a high wall in his own conceit. (2.) See this tree felled and forgotten notwithstanding, destroyed from his place (Job 8:18), and so entirely extirpated that there shall remain no sign or token where it grew. The very place say, I have not seen thee; and the standers by shall say the same. I sought him, but he could not be found, Psa 37:36. He made a great show and a great noise for a time, but he is gone of a sudden, and neither root nor branch is left him, Mal 4:1. This is the joy (that is, this is the end and conclusion) of the wicked man's way (Job 8:19); this is that which all his joy comes to. The way of the ungodly shall perish, Psa 1:6. His hope, he thought, would in the issue be turned into joy; but this is the issue, this is the joy. The harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow, Isa 17:11. This is the best of it; and what then is the worst of it? But shall he not leave a family behind him to enjoy what he has? No, out of the earth (not out of his roots) shall others grow, that are nothing akin to him, and shall fill up his place, and rule over that for which he labored. Others (that is, others of the same spirit and disposition) shall grow up in his place, and be as secure as ever he was, not warned by his fall. The way of worldlings is their folly, and yet there is a race of those that approve their sayings, Psa 49:13.
Previously Bildad said that the teaching is passed on from the ancestors and fathers to the following generations. Now he supports this with an example. He says, “As papyrus does not prosper without water and reeds do not grow if they are not watered … likewise someone cannot produce useful fruit whose spirit has not received nourishment from higher authorities.” But one can also say that human affairs are watered by providence as with water; if water is not added, they easily decrease and vanish. If, therefore, someone is hit by hardships but recovers from them, this happens with thanks to Providence. Even if what humans do seems to have a human root, it still does not last if Providence does not preside over it. Similarly the psalmist says beautifully, “Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain.” [Bildad then comments], “They wither before any other plant.” This means the same as Bildad’s earlier comment but is said about every plant. He seems to mean that, big or small, everything in life is subjected to Providence and withers if it does not pay attention to it.
To whom Bildad compares ‘the rush’ and ‘the flag,’
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SUMMARY
Job 8:11 presents a profound rhetorical question posed by Bildad the Shuhite, one of Job's friends, asserting a fundamental principle of dependence observed in the natural world: just as marsh plants like rushes and flags cannot grow or thrive without the specific conditions of mire and water, so too, by Bildad's rigid theological framework, can human prosperity and well-being not exist apart from righteousness. This verse serves as a vivid analogy within Bildad's argument for strict retributive justice, implying that Job's suffering is a direct consequence of his unrighteousness—a premise the overarching narrative of the Book of Job ultimately challenges and refutes.
CONTEXT
EXPOSITION AND ANALYSIS
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Verse Breakdown
Literary Devices
Job 8:11 masterfully employs several powerful literary devices to convey Bildad's argument with persuasive force. The most prominent is the Rhetorical Question, where the inquiries "Can the rush grow up without mire? can the flag grow without water?" are posed not to solicit information, but to assert an undeniable truth. The expected answer is an emphatic "No," thereby establishing the absolute necessity of the stated conditions and creating a strong, conclusive tone that makes Bildad's point seem self-evident. Closely related is Analogy, as Bildad uses the observable and undeniable dependence of marsh plants on their specific environment to draw a direct parallel to the supposed dependence of human prosperity and well-being on righteousness. The natural world thus serves as a powerful metaphor for spiritual reality. Furthermore, the verse exhibits clear Parallelism, specifically Synonymous Parallelism, where the second line reiterates the thought of the first using different but equivalent terms ("rush" and "flag," "mire" and "water"). This repetition strengthens the emphasis and reinforces the core message of absolute dependence. Finally, the strategic use of Natural Imagery grounds Bildad's abstract theological argument in concrete, relatable observations from the created world, making his point vivid, memorable, and seemingly irrefutable.
THEOLOGICAL AND THEMATIC CONNECTIONS
While Bildad's application of this principle to Job's suffering was ultimately proven flawed by the narrative of Job itself (as Job was righteous, and his suffering was not a direct consequence of sin), the underlying truth about the necessity of proper conditions for growth holds profound and enduring theological significance. The verse speaks to a universal principle of dependence: nothing thrives in a vacuum. For spiritual life, this implies an absolute reliance on God and His divine provisions. Just as the rush needs mire and the flag needs water, humanity needs divine sustenance, wisdom, and grace to truly flourish. The Book of Job, while challenging simplistic retributive theology, does not negate the reality that a life lived apart from God's truth and guidance will ultimately wither and fail to bear lasting fruit. True spiritual vitality is found in consistently drawing from the divine source, acknowledging our inherent need for God's presence, wisdom, and provision in every aspect of life.
REFLECTION AND APPLICATION
Job 8:11, though spoken by a friend who profoundly misjudged Job's situation, presents a powerful and timeless truth about the nature of dependence for flourishing. It serves as a stark reminder that just as specific natural elements are indispensable for the robust growth of certain plants, so too are spiritual elements absolutely essential for our human and spiritual well-being. We cannot expect to thrive in isolation from God, His life-giving Word, or the sustaining power of His Spirit. Our spiritual lives, much like the rush and the flag, require constant nourishment from the "mire" of God's truth and the "water" of His grace. This means intentionally immersing ourselves in Scripture, cultivating a vibrant and consistent prayer life, seeking the ongoing guidance of the Holy Spirit, and actively participating in the nurturing community of faith. When we neglect these vital spiritual disciplines, we risk stunting our growth, becoming brittle, and ultimately failing to bear the abundant fruit God intends for us. Our spiritual vitality is directly and inextricably linked to our consistent drawing upon the divine resources He has graciously provided.
Questions for Reflection
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Was Bildad's argument in Job 8:11 entirely wrong?
Answer: Bildad's argument in Job 8:11 is a classic example of a true premise leading to a false conclusion when misapplied. The underlying principle that plants need specific conditions (mire, water) to grow is undeniably true. This reflects a broader biblical truth that all creation is dependent on its Creator and that spiritual life requires divine sustenance. However, Bildad's application of this principle to Job's suffering was fundamentally flawed. He assumed a direct, simplistic, and immediate cause-and-effect relationship between sin and suffering, believing that Job's immense trials must be a direct consequence of his unrighteousness. The Book of Job as a whole, particularly the prologue in Job 1 and Job 2, clearly demonstrates that Job was righteous and his suffering had a different, divinely orchestrated purpose. So, while the natural analogy itself holds a valid truth about dependence, Bildad's theological interpretation and accusatory application to Job were incorrect and lacked the full understanding of God's complex and sovereign ways.
CHRIST-CENTERED FULFILLMENT
While Job 8:11 speaks of a natural principle of dependence, its deepest fulfillment and most profound spiritual meaning are found in Christ. Bildad's analogy points to an essential truth: life, especially flourishing life, is not self-sustaining but requires vital external conditions. In the New Testament, Jesus reveals Himself as the ultimate source of these spiritual necessities. He declares, "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing" (John 15:5). Here, Christ is the spiritual "mire" and "water"—the indispensable environment, the very ground of our being, and the sustaining sustenance—without which true spiritual life cannot grow, thrive, or bear lasting fruit. He also offers "living water" that eternally quenches spiritual thirst (John 4:10 and John 7:37-38). The absolute dependence Bildad observed in nature finds its perfect spiritual parallel in our complete and utter reliance on Christ for salvation, sanctification, and eternal life. We, like the rush and flag, must be deeply rooted in Him to truly live and flourish, drawing all our vitality, strength, and purpose from His inexhaustible grace and truth.